"What we do allow is emergency medical care at an ER, which is totally
different than applying to an ongoing insurance program."

Exactly.  Which is where they are dropped off for any type of care.

Every single person living in California has access to care—the 6.5 million
uninsured simply get theirs in our emergency rooms, the single most
expensive place to see a doctor. Last year, 27 hospitals in San Diego County
reported losing $620 million in uncompensated care. At Scripps Mercy, the
uncompensated care total was almost $50 million.

According to the Office of Statewide Health Planning and Development, 65
California emergency rooms have closed in the last decade. In Los Angeles
County alone, 20 percent of ERs have closed since 1995.

A new study by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows
that between 40-50 percent of emergency departments experienced overcrowding
in 2003 and 2004. According to the study, the uninsured and Medi-Cal
patients are the major causes of this overcrowding, especially in
metropolitan areas.

Almost half of ER patients believe that their problem could have been
handled by their own doctor. “46 percent of all ER users believed that their
problem could have been handled by a primary care physician, had one been
available. Furthermore, one in five recent ER visits can be defined as
avoidable. An avoidable ER visit is one that occurs during weekday business
hours and was for a problem that could have been treated by a PCP or could
have waited longer than 24 hours to treat.” Source: “Overuse of Emergency
Departments Among Insured Californians,” California Health Care Foundation,
October 2006.

The uninsured are more than five times more likely to use ER for primary
care. “About 20 percent of the uninsured (vs. 3 percent of those with
coverage) say their usual source of care is the emergency room.” Source:
“The Uninsured: A Primer, Key Facts about Americans without Health
Insurance,” The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, October 2006.

The uninsured are more likely to be hospitalized for an avoidable condition.
“Nationally, the uninsured are 30 to 50 percent more likely to be
hospitalized for an avoidable condition, with the average cost of an
avoidable hospital stayed estimated to be about $3,300” Source: “Hidden
Costs, Values Lost: Uninsurance in America,” Institute of Medicine, June
2003.


"Nice try though."

Thanks.  What was I trying?  Posting a link to a story with excerpts?


J

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Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. -
Henry Kissinger

Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go
out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton



On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Illegal immigrants have no right to freely book a doctors appointment
> in the US either. The court ruling in that case is covering critical
> but planned care and more specifically, covers the person's
> application to a specific health care insurance program. The US
> equivalent would be Medicaid and we don't allow illegal immigrants to
> be covered under Medicaid.
>
> What we do allow is emergency medical care at an ER, which is totally
> different than applying to an ongoing insurance program. As noted in
> the article, the primary focus of the ruling is reigning in medical
> tourism, which is not something we have a problem with here in the US.
>
> Nice try though.
>
> Judah
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Illegal immigrants have no right to free health care: Court
> >
> > Excerpt:
> >
> > An illegal immigrant has no right to free medical intervention or ongoing
> > health care under the Charter of Rights, the Federal Court of Appeal has
> > ruled in a precedent-setting decision.
> > The ruling will help protect Canada from medical tourism, when people
> come
> > to Canada expressly to get medical treatment paid for by the government,
> an
> > immigration specialist said.
> >
> > Read more here:
> >
> http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/07/08/illegal-immigrants-have-no-right-to-free-health-care-court/#more-77179
> >
> > It's Canada, not the US.  No implosion from the lefties and Whoops from
> the
> > righties.
> >
> > J
> >
> > -
> >
> > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad
> reputation. -
> > Henry Kissinger
> >
> > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
> go
> > out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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