On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I cannot tell if you are being serious or playing Devil's Advocate. Both.
> Do you really not know what the term "Creationist" means in terms of > 21st Century American culture and politics? I've seen the term used for a wide spread of things that can all be termed as religious - though almost always Christian religious. I've sometimes seen it applied to Jewish religious (along with the Christian) but never to Islam, Hinduism, or any other religion. So is it a 'stealth' way of saying Christian, religious Christian or fundamentalist Christian? That being said, there are place where I do know exactly who creationist are. When some group is trying to include a religious understanding of creation into public schools, I know those are creationists and they have to be stopped. When some group is trying to suppress scientific advancement because it conflicts with their understanding of creation, those are creationists. When I hear creationists, I hear what amounts to a Luddite. I know lots of people who have no problem accepting the Jewish understanding of creation and also be on the cutting edge of science. I know of a Kabbalist who was also a respected physicist (For Eric - Aryeh Kaplan, author of the translation of the Sefer Yetzirah that is probably on your shelf). I myself am a firm believer in God's hand in creation and anyone who knows me knows I'm far from a Luddite. :) > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Michael Dinowitz > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That is disingenuous of you Michael. >>> >>> You know exactly who the term "Creationist" applies to in this context. >> >> Actually, I don't. I don't know if it only applies to those who >> believe in 6000 (or so) actual days of existence or those who believe >> that existence has a controlling force. I believe that there is a God >> who created everything. I believe in the "creation story" as the site >> author puts it. I don't believe that there has only been 6000 days of >> existence. I don't believe that the creation took 6 days according to >> how we measure time. Do I fall into this guys categorization? >> I may well. >> >> But again, I find his argument flawed. I have nothing against him or >> his right to have the argument. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:341312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
