Yeah, prove a negative, bitches!

What a fucktard.

Judah

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> And in response, an Australian businessman has offered a challenge to Dr.
> Caplan.
>
> http://sanevax.org/father-of-injured-gardasil-girl-matches-caplan's-bio-unethical-bet/
>
> Dear Dr. Caplan
>
> I would like to offer you $10,000 to you to prove that Gardasil did not and
> does not cause the issues discussed by Ms. Bachman and others. Of course
> when I win, you might care to donate the monies to SANE Vax. However and
> unlike your gutless prove it by Thursday deadline – I am happy to keep this
> offer open for a while.
>
> On a personal note I find it revolting that a ‘bioethicist” would engage in
> such a bet. Surely your responsibilities are to investigate, consider and
> approach this with an open mind. But I guess you have long since not been a
> “real” bioethicist and now are really a ‘vaxapologist!’
>
> One more question: will the $10,000 be sourced from your pockets or from the
> bioethics centre? As you know, but perhaps many others don’t know, funding
> for the center comes from a range of sources – including the NIH
> http://www.bioethics.upenn.edu/funding.shtml, which as we say down-under has
> ‘skin in the game” by being a co-patent holder for Gardasil and receives
> royalties from its sale.
>
> A wee bit of conflict of interest and perhaps a challenge for you and your
> supposed ethics! Interesting that this was not disclosed by you!
>
> So Dr Caplan ‘man up;’ disclose your conflicts and take up the challenge!
>
> Stephen Tunley Sydney Australia Father of Chescia Tunley – yet another young
> woman damaged by Gardasil
>
> The ball is in your court now, Dr. Caplan.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> from:
>>
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/09/22/140714382/silence-from-rep-bachmann-as-vaccine-challenge-expires?ft=1&f=1001
>>
>> Silence From Rep. Bachmann As Vaccine Challenge Expires
>> The high noon deadline for bioethicist Arthur Caplan's $10,000 challenge
> to Rep. Michele Bachmann has come and gone without a peep from the
> Republican presidential hopeful. But damage from her statement linking the
> HPV vaccine with mental retardation has already been done, Caplan says.
>>
>> As Shots reported last week, bioethicist Steven Miles first ponied up
> $1,000 to call Bachmann's bluff. Caplan, a professor at the University of
> Pennsylvania, then raised the ante with $10,000 out of his own pocket. He
> asked Bachmann to produce a real person who has suffered mental retardation
> by the HPV vaccine.
>>
>> If she could do it, Caplan offered to donate the ten grand to Bachmann's
> charity of choice. If she failed, he suggested that Bachmann donate the same
> amount to a charity of his choice. No one from the Bachmann camp ever
> contacted Caplan accepting the challenge, according to the bioethicist.
>>
>> "Time is up," he said in a press conference today.
>>
>>
>> Over the past week, Caplan, who studies vaccine ethics, chastised Bachmann
> for her rumor- and fear-mongering of a vaccine that's used to prevent
> cervical cancer. Despite medical professionals refuting Bachmann's claim,
> Caplan wrote in a blog that he was still "worried that the stench of fear
> was going to linger around vaccines yet again."
>>
>> Miles concurred in an interview with NPR's Michele Norris. "What happened
> here was yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater," Miles said. "The claim is
> very important because women will make important health decisions based on
> the idea that mental retardation may be a side effect of this, which there's
> no evidence, so far, that it is."
>>
>> Why have concerns about the vaccine grown so disproportionate to the small
> safety hazards it actually presents? Because politicians occasionally use
> anecdotes and stories instead of facts, Caplan says.
>>
>> "Politicians shouldn't get away with hearsay," he said. "We need to hold
> candidates responsible for their sources."
>>
>> Caplan tells Shots that he's received a lot of e-mails supporting his
> challenge — some people even offering money of their own — and a few trying
> to disprove him. But no one has succeeded yet.
>>
>> And as one of millions watching the Republican Primary debate tonight,
> he'll be listening hard for more talk of vaccines.
>>
>>
>
> 

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