I dunno. The only Occupy I have visited is San Jose. I would say that
over 70% of those people are not homeless, but it's a small protest in
a city that's remarkably mild given that it's the tenth largest in the
US. Or so I am told.

Atlanta may of course be completely different and probably is ;) I've
only ever been there for a conference at the CNN center.

I am guessing, but the dog law was probably something like you can't
have a dog on certain streets. Cuts down on the homeless population in
those areas, since they don't have where they can leave their dogs at.
It is the law now, don't know if it was then. And yes it's a bit
irrational to have a dog in the circumstances but a lot of them do.
Probably improves safety out in the woods at night. (A lot of them
sleep in a forest area just outside town, since the city arrests them.
As a general practice, I mean -- not just drunks passed out in
playgrounds.



On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it's that telling that the MLK center won't let them
>> stay in daylight hours -- they are in business as a museum not a
>> protest venue, right? The guy that authorized the overnight stays was
>> probably nervous enough about *that*...
>>
>
> Well, none of the venues that various Occupy protesters are using are
> "protest venues".
>
>
>> There's a balance between using public spaces and letting other people
>> use them too. I get the impression that some activists are determined
>> not to find that balance.
>
>
> Yup.
>
>
>> It really is hard to tell whether these "advocates" are doing more
>> harm than good. Yet. The city is even more wrong. Santa Cruz arrests
>> people for singing on its main street, if it's the wrong kind of
>> singing, and once arrested one of these activists for flipping a Nazi
>> salute when the city council told him open meeting or not he and his
>> friend were not welcome.
>>
>
> A college friend of mine lived in Santa Cruz for awhile and I visited him a
> few times.  I remember being shocked at how overbearing the laws were
> there, considering how liberal the city claims to be.  There was some law
> about dog walking in the city that I found particularly ridiculous and
> overbearing - don't remember exactly what it was now.
>
> In fact I remember having a long conversation with him about how,
> paradoxically, the more liberal an area is in California, somewhat
> paradoxically, it seemed to be proportionally more restrictive.
>
>
>> That's wrong even though I can see why they wish he would go away.
>> There's a ban on camping inside the city in part because of him. Yet.
>> The city arrests people for sleeping. I have a problem with that.
>> People do tend to do that sooner or later no matter how hard they try
>>
>
> The homeless are a serious problem in most cities in the US.  I liken OA to
> homeless more than to protesters, along with similar problems that come
> along with the homeless.  Sleeping in public spaces, behaving erratically,
> and unreasonably.  Perhaps not as much mental problems, though depending on
> what your policial leanings are some might disagree with that too.
>
> -Cameron
>
> ...
>
>
> 

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