On 12/7/2011 9:12 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Well, we've been making cleaner factories for years and they're
> getting better as we go. Coal is also used in a much cleaner way.
> Solar and wind are huge wastes that only help friends of Dems. One
> day, when done right,  they might be worthwhile.

I won't argue that things are getting better, but is it enough soon 
enough?  I suppose that is the argument.  "I am not going to spend MY 
time and MY money and only progress as much as I am forced to."

There are a lot of fascinating technologies out there that have promise. 
  Geothermal and the harnessing of wave/current motion in the oceans 
interest me.  I bet if we applied the resources towards developing these 
technologies like we applied to getting to the moon or military R&D then 
we could come up with a workable solution pretty quickly.  It's just 
that no one is motivated.

  The rush in is to
> close factories in the US and move manufacturing to China and India
> where they don't give a hoot about emmisions. That just hurts our
> economy, helps theirs and creates double the CO2 and pollution because
> they don't waste their time or money to build cleaner factories.

No argument here and I am not suggesting that we should blindly force 
companies into that kind of position.  I am just saying that we should 
be taking a serious look at changing our energy consumption habits, just 
in case.  We need to quit dicking around with other countries and see to 
our own infrastructure.  Unfortunately, the major energy suppliers are 
more interested in milking every dollar out of what they have while they 
can, metering it out on a production schedule that maximizes profit. 
Instead of upgrading our infrastructure, we are only interested in 
supporting what we have had for the past 100 years.  Sure, the 
production of energy has become cleaner, but calling cleaner fossil 
fuels progress is like spraying a pile of dung with perfume and putting 
a pretty bow on it, and calling it better.

I say bring back nuclear power plants!

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