And whoever harness that energy will make a fortune which means if
there were great potentials companies would invest. You can't always
force breakthroughs, sometimes it just takes time. There's also the
impact of alternatives, like Google proposing to use the oceans to
cool it's servers would then warm the oceans. If you  tap too much
geothermal energy would that cool the earth faster?
I see they're trying to close the remaining two nuclear power plants
in California.

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, PT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 12/7/2011 9:12 AM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> Well, we've been making cleaner factories for years and they're
>> getting better as we go. Coal is also used in a much cleaner way.
>> Solar and wind are huge wastes that only help friends of Dems. One
>> day, when done right,  they might be worthwhile.
>
> I won't argue that things are getting better, but is it enough soon
> enough?  I suppose that is the argument.  "I am not going to spend MY
> time and MY money and only progress as much as I am forced to."
>
> There are a lot of fascinating technologies out there that have promise.
>  Geothermal and the harnessing of wave/current motion in the oceans
> interest me.  I bet if we applied the resources towards developing these
> technologies like we applied to getting to the moon or military R&D then
> we could come up with a workable solution pretty quickly.  It's just
> that no one is motivated.
>
>  The rush in is to
>> close factories in the US and move manufacturing to China and India
>> where they don't give a hoot about emmisions. That just hurts our
>> economy, helps theirs and creates double the CO2 and pollution because
>> they don't waste their time or money to build cleaner factories.
>
> No argument here and I am not suggesting that we should blindly force
> companies into that kind of position.  I am just saying that we should
> be taking a serious look at changing our energy consumption habits, just
> in case.  We need to quit dicking around with other countries and see to
> our own infrastructure.  Unfortunately, the major energy suppliers are
> more interested in milking every dollar out of what they have while they
> can, metering it out on a production schedule that maximizes profit.
> Instead of upgrading our infrastructure, we are only interested in
> supporting what we have had for the past 100 years.  Sure, the
> production of energy has become cleaner, but calling cleaner fossil
> fuels progress is like spraying a pile of dung with perfume and putting
> a pretty bow on it, and calling it better.
>
> I say bring back nuclear p

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