http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=1960

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:00 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: For those that are interested


well I think this was wheat, but... point is, the Indian company didn't want
it. Actually now that I look closer they seem to be a multinational that
owns a company in India. But anyway.  For whatever reason or even for no
reason, they said they didn't want the stuff. Why does biotech company feel
that their non-customer (the Indian company) is not entitled to refuse to
buy wheat that does not meet their specifications for whatever reason?
Isn't that what capitalism is all about?

/me bats eyelashes

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Eric Roberts <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I am sure the Indian company didn't want it because no Indian farmer 
> would ever buy GMO seeds after the last fiasco.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:18 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: For those that are interested
>
>
> check it out, the magic of Google and this thread made this link 
> appear on my screen. It's not Monsanto, but here is a company that is 
> suing another company that didn't want to buy genetically modified 
> corn. Because it didn't think it could sell it. What am I missing 
> here? would there be futures or some sort of contract involved? I 
> don't understand why that would be illegal. The argument appears to be 
> that this product has been approved in the United States so this 
> Indian company better suck it up and whip its Chinese customers into 
> line chop chop.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Eric Roberts < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think a great example of why GMPO is bad is to look at India's 
> > experience with it.  Thousands of farmers have committed suicide as 
> > a result of the loss of income resulting from crop failures with GMO 
> > crops and the cost of having to buy seed every year.  Normally, 
> > farmers would save some of the seed to plant for the next year, but 
> > because of patent issues, they were not allowed to do so.  GMO has 
> > nothing to do with what they are marketing it as...it has everything 
> > to do with Corporate profits for Monsanto.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:15 AM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: For those that are interested
> >
> >
> > well...I was sort of against GM food in an abstract way before I 
> > read that, and kinda felt that well, if some of these strains can 
> > prevent food shortages possibly this might even be, relatively 
> > speaking, a good
> thing.
> > But that paragraph really gave me pause. I don't want my intestinal 
> > flora to be Roundup-ready. Genetically modified corn that exchanges 
> > DNA with the nitty-gritty bits of my bodily functions??? Nonononono.
> > Not to mention that if Monsanto gets wind of this they are liable to 
> > sue me for non-licensed use, bless their litigious and piratical 
> > souls.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm totally on Sandra's side but I will note that not all GM 
> > > ingredients are created equally. There are some genetic 
> > > modification processes that are just meant to propagate a 
> > > particular (identical) strain, a clone if you will, that perhaps 
> > > has characteristics (genetic
> > > material) from a couple strains in that species. Then there are 
> > > genetic modifications that introduce designer sequences of genes 
> > > that don't really occur in nature. And then there are transgenic 
> > > genetic modifications, wherein a genetic sequence from one species 
> > > is inserted into the genetic code of another. This is the case, 
> > > for example, with bT corn where bacteria genes are spliced into corn.
> > >
> > > Monsanto, of course, doesn't want you to know about any of them 
> > > and doesn't want any of them regulated. They are pure evil. None 
> > > the less, there is likely substantially different risk profiles in 
> > > the different types of genetic modification and they shouldn't all 
> > > be considered the same.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Judah
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Sandra Clark 
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And unfortunately 90% or more of the soy grown in the United 
> > > > States is GM soy.  Most processed foods unless they are organic 
> > > > contain GM
> > > ingredients.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Sandra Clark 
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dana,
> > > >>
> > > >> Sad to say, but yes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Unfortunately for us, GMO's are not required to be labeled.
> > > >> Monsanto
> > > went
> > > >> after dairy producers who chose to label their products as free 
> > > >> from
> > > BST or
> > > >> free from bGH, so food producers are afraid to label their 
> > > >> foods as
> > > NON-GMO
> > > >> (tho some are doing so).
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Dana <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> say WHAT???
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "There is only one published human feeding experiment and that 
> > > >>> showed
> > > that
> > > >>> the genetic material inserted into GM soy transfers into the 
> > > >>> bacteria living inside our guts and continues to function."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Whoa. Wait. Why.....wait. This is food that's on the market 
> > > >>> right
> > now?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Sandra Clark 
> > > >>> <[email protected]>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > A few of you asked to be notified when I did another GMO
article.
> > >  The
> > > >>> > second of the series posted today.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > GMO Health Risks -
> > > >>> > http://healthyfoodnaturally.com/2012/02/07/gmo-health-risks/
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Previous
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Whats all the Fuss about GMO's
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > http://healthyfoodnaturally.com/2012/01/24/whats-all-the-fuss-abou
> > > t-
> > > gm
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