A lot of phones use tower triangulation instead of GPS...or give you an
option to use a combo of the 2


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:08 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In furtherance of the surveillance nation.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1qDYSCONyg&sns=em

note, in some dense urban environments gps is not necessary for tracking
location.... that's the code apple was trying to patent.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:

> well, I turn off the GPS in my phone just for funsies, though I'm easy 
> enough to find in other ways if somebody really wants to and it's more 
> likely to be a problem for me --say if I had to call 911 -- than 
> anyone else. But I've seen one too many DEFCON presentations and I 
> figure why make it easy for the bastards. If we stop caring about 
> privacy we'll stop having any.
>
> I have a link about that someone else sent me, will send it though in 
> a minute. By the way I think that seignorage thing was about minting 
> money not usury, will try to look that up too while I am multitasking
here....
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:43 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> It's crazy.
>>
>> What actions can you really take to go off the grid and still have a 
>> life though?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:12 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I see that and raise you this:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.fusionauthority.com/news/4838-all-your-contact-are-belong-
>> to-us.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > see the "ramifications" section. Since we're doing such a good job 
>> > of appalling eaver other ...
>> >
>> > ;)
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 



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