I agree that China is a problem. This bill doesn't solve it though. I gather that some of the other bills would mandate minimum standards for some organizations. This approach has its own dangers, but at least you could eliminate low-hanging fruit like admin passwords that reset themselves to a known default of "100". If that's the best the market can do then the market can't solve this problem.
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Agreed. > > I mean, we were working China stuff when I was at OSAC (2002-2005), as well > as Pakistan, Lebanon, Brazil and others. We got by just fine on the > available information from both open and classified sources (scrubbing > classified intelligence for distribution to American companies operating > abroad being part of OSACs primary mission). > > The major reason things are supposed to be classified is the fear of > releasing information that will reveal sources and methods. This is a very > real concern. There are people out there on the sharp end gathering this > information that do not have diplomatic covers to hide behind, and would be > very dead should they be discovered. > > Also, China has a very real impact on U.S. intellectual property and > business in general. They copy everything and manufacture it without any > royalties, often even beating import restrictions and tariffs. > > It's a tough situation, but I really don't thin that this bill is going to > help that situation, only further shred whatever privacy we as individuals > still retain. > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> the new NSA data center has everything to do with this. They will need >> the capacity. >> >> This is not about China, though. >> >> D >> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > He also said he'd veto the NDAA, and we see how that turned out. >> > >> > FISA, NDAA, NDRP, Patriot Act, it goes on and on with these people. >> > >> > I really hope that we as Americans can get our shit together and change >> > things electorally, but I don't see that happening. >> > >> > People are more interested in Dancing with the Stars and Jersey Shore. >> > >> > There is also a bill floating around to allow the IRS to deny you your >> 2nd >> > amendment rights, and your right to travel (through denying you a >> passport) >> > even when not convicted of anything. >> > >> > Plus the new NSA data center in Utah. >> > >> > Interesting times. >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> thank you! that means a lot coming from you. >> >> >> >> I should add that Obama has threatened to veto this legislation if it >> >> gets to his desk in its present form, but it will not get to his desk >> >> in its present form. A whole bunch more amendments were just proposed >> >> today so it's anybody's guess what the bill currently says. Note -- >> >> none of the amendments address the "notwithstanding all other law" >> >> language apparently, and according to CNET some of them make the bill >> >> even worse. >> >> >> >> I almost feel like chicken little saying the sky is falling this soon >> >> again after SOPA, but it really is bad stuff. If the intent is not to >> >> impinge on privacy, why retain language that says it's ok to do so? >> >> >> >> Remember all that fuss over warrantless wiretaps a few years ago? They >> >> wouldn't have to worry about warrants any more. And the stated >> >> rationale -- Chinese hackers -- would not be affected by the >> >> provisions of this bill. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Good article Dana, thanks. >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.fusionauthority.com/news/4841-threat-to-fourth-amendment-surfacing-in-congress.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350249 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
