It puts us in a group with some pretty nutty people.  That isn't our
purpose in the least.

Also I love how the word "Patriot" has somehow come to have negative
connotations in today's society.  WTF is wrong with us?

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Eric Roberts <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> So, in other words, it doesn't list them as a hate group...it lists them as
> a Patriot group...in a list separate from hate groups...
>
> Eric Roberts
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:01 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Chick-fil-A southern bully par excellence
>
>
> Ok, partial answer to my own question. I looked up Oath Keepers on the SLPC
> page and they show up here:
>
>
> http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/
> 2012/spring/active-patriot-groups-in-the-united-states
>
> It is a listing of active "Patriot" groups in the US, about which they say:
>
> "Generally, Patriot groups define themselves as opposed to the "New World
> Order," engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing, or advocate or adhere
> to
> extreme antigovernment doctrines. Listing here does not imply that the
> groups themselves advocate or engage in violence or other criminal
> activities, or are racist."
>
> and then they proceed to list some 1200-odd groups. So Oath Keepers aren't
> actually listed as a Hate Group but rather a Patriot group, which I think
> is
> pretty true. I don't like all 1200 groups being lumped in together,
> however,
> as it loses all useful distinction and paints everyone with the same broad
> brush.
>
> Judah
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Larry, what in that article do you see that would justify labeling the
> > Oath Keepers as a hate group? They may be conspiracy-minded, sure, but
> > that isn't the same thing as being a hate group. I disagree with them
> > on monetary policy and think their central bank crap is pretty insane
> > but as far as I can tell, the group is all about forming a group that
> > could actively resist governmental takeover and/or collapse. Given
> > that that has happened many times in human history, I don't see that
> > as being entirely ridiculous. There are certainly plenty of Patriot
> > groups that actively traffic in racial abuse and hatred, no doubt. But
> > that doesn't mean that they all do.
> >
> > Judah
>
>
>
> 

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