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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> This is just a casual observation from the middle, but those who take their
> rightist views to the extreme seem much more prone to violence than those
> on the left who take their views to the extreme. Dunno why that is, but I
> would think historical evidence over the last quarter century or so would
> certainly bear that out.
>
> The left is not void of their own violence though, not by a long stretch.
> The shooting that happened last week is a reminder of that...the guy who
> walked into a center that supports defense of marriage junk, and shot
> people while carrying Chick-Fil-A bags.
>
> Extremists of all stripes are dangerous, whether they are violent or not,
> because "dumb" has a way of fucking things up for everyone else.
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > The IRA last I checked is focused on Ireland, the Northern Provinces
> > mostly. And as an organization, aside from the die hard Provos, its
> > more defunct than anything else.
> >
> > You're really starting to stretch it now.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had to get physical with ay least one years ago at an anti-war
> > > protest/gathering of eagles thing years ago.  I talked about it on here
> > at
> > > the time but I don't think you were on here yet.
> > >
> > > Also most of the IRA are maoists, it's actually still got some teeth.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> How many Stalinists and Maoists are in the US recently
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >> Three Ravens Consulting
> > >> Eric Roberts
> > >> Owner/Developer
> > >> [email protected]
> > >> tel: 630-486-5255
> > >> fax: 630-310-8531
> > >> http://www.threeravensconsulting.com
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:25 PM
> > >> To: cf-community
> > >> Subject: Re: where do they get these loonies
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ok, how many have Stalinists and Maoists killed?
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons
> > >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > How many died during the WTO protests? How many died from at the
> hands
> > >> > of right wing extremist. The difference is a riot where a few people
> > >> > got hurt and the o so important corporate property was scratched vs.
> > >> > years of murders beating firebombings and assassinations.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:24 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Oh I know all about what DHS and the FBI think, trust and believe.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > However, lets look back over the last say, decade.  Have there
> been
> > >> > > right wing attacks?  Sure, I would say that anecdotal news and so
> > >> > > forth shows that the left has been far more active and violent.
> > >> > > You're right I
> > >> > didn't
> > >> > > mention earth first and I should have.  The various anarchist and
> > >> > > black bloc groups and done far more harm and damage than anything
> I
> > >> > > have seen from the right.  WTO anyone?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons
> > >> > ><[email protected]
> > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Black Panther Party? Yes right, two drunk idiots. If you are
> > >> > >> referring to the original Black Panthers, they were crushed in a
> > >> > >> shootout with police back in Berkley in the late 60's.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Communists you have to be kidding. Has there ever been a real
> > >> > >> communist threat in this country since the 60's? Same with
> > >> > >> Socialist -actually Tim you wouldn't know one if he or she snuck
> up
> > >> > >> behind you and bit you in the ass.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Anarchists, yes there is that but they couldn't get organized
> > >> > >> enough to find their collective buts. But you also neglected the
> > >> > >> radical environmentalist groups like the FOE. they have been and
> > >> > >> are an ongoing legitimate threat.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'm surprised you didn't add unions and civil rights groups to
> the
> > >> list.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> that said even the FBI consideres the biggest internal threat to
> > >> > >> the US to be the right wing hate groups.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Black Panther Party, Black Bloc, Communists, Socialists,
> > >> > >> > Anarchists,
> > >> > >> Don't
> > >> > >> > try and make it seem like it's only inside the right that these
> > >> > >> > things
> > >> > >> are
> > >> > >> > done.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > It's about time to tear this shit down and start over anyway.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > >> > >> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Extreme, loonie, and violent are apt descriptions.  When was
> the
> > >> > >> >> last
> > >> > >> time
> > >> > >> >> you saw an Occupy protest with people carrying loaded weapons
> > >> > >> >> that
> > >> > were
> > >> > >> not
> > >> > >> >> the police?  Now let's ask the same question about Tea Party
> > >> > rallies...
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------
> > >> > >> >> Three Ravens Consulting
> > >> > >> >> Eric Roberts
> > >> > >> >> Owner/Developer
> > >> > >> >> [email protected]
> > >> > >> >> tel: 630-486-5255
> > >> > >> >> fax: 630-310-8531
> > >> > >> >> http://www.threeravensconsulting.com
> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> >> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:34 AM
> > >> > >> >> To: cf-community
> > >> > >> >> Subject: Re: where do they get these loonies
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Larry C. Lyons
> > >> > >> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> > Am I? I am just commenting that the right wing extremist
> > >> > >> >> > loonie bin
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> The language you use is so full of venom and vitriol that I
> find
> > >> > >> >> it impossible to take any argument that you make seriously,
> even
> > >> > >> >> if I
> > >> > agree
> > >> > >> >> with one of them.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Using such language to describe someone else as "extreme",
> > >> > >> >> "loonie",
> > >> > or
> > >> > >> >> "violent" is even more ridiculous sounding to me because your
> > >> > language
> > >> > >> >> sounds extreme, loonie, and potentially violent in nature
> > itself.
> > >> > It's
> > >> > >> like
> > >> > >> >> you've reached a point where you are so angry at some nebulous
> > >> > >> stereotype
> > >> > >> >> of
> > >> > >> >> a certain classification of people that it has driven you
> > >> > >> >> literally
> > >> > >> "mad"
> > >> > >> >> and you actually sound more and more like the loonies you are
> > >> > critical
> > >> > >> of
> > >> > >> >> than the sane person that you probably self-identify as.
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> -Cameron
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> ...
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