I identify as an American. I could go to Canada and probably get
citizenship, but I don't. It's important to me to be an American. Do I
agree with everything that is official policy here? Oh hell no. But
it's what I was born into, it is what my ancestors were and I'll do my
best to help make my country the America I want it to be.

The same is true for a lot of people in political parties and
religions. I agree that if you find something too morally repugnant,
you should leave. I also know that there is a lot within Islam that is
decent and kind and good. I'm not a good person to judge the balance
for Islam, just like I'm not for Christianity. I don't really
understand religion from the inside, it's not how I was raised and I
am not really wired with the need for belief. But I'm also not willing
to condemn everyone either.

Judah

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm not saying it is.  I know better than that.  I worked with ANA guys
> that really were trying to do the right things.  Terps that put their lives
> and the lives of their families on the line to help us.
>
> What I am saying is that EVERY person that self identifies as either a sh'a
> or sunni is saying that these laws are ok.  They grant them legitimacy.
>
> Example.  A few months ago I joined the USDL, an off shoot of the EDL.  I
> was on their forums and going through things.  I found a couple of things
> that really bothered me.  There was at least on person with white power
> nonsense in his sig, 1488 and shit; and the US version made christian
> theology very central to their group, something the EDL does not do.
>
> I started simple.  Some minor agitating.  Ramped up and got louder as I was
> ignored.  Finally I left and I took people with me because they were fucked
> up.  I wouldn't belong to a group who I didn't morally agree with.  I
> cannot do that.
>
> I left government service for much the same reason, I couldn't abide the
> direction things were headed.
>
> We decide for ourselves who to associate with.  Who to call friend and
> ally.  Did all Nazis support genocide against the Jews?  No they did not,
> but if they remained members and didn't fight it then they are every bit as
> guilty as those that carried it out.
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:13 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm the one that posted the pics of those supporting protests to this
>> list
>> > don't forget.  Yes, I loved seeing it and would love to see more.
>> >
>> > Instead what I've seen is Yemen and Tunisia.
>>
>> If you are paying attention to Tunisia perhaps you will notice that
>> their police force was standing its ground against protestors, putting
>> themselves in harms way to try and protect our embassy. In Egypt,
>> police are also battling protestors. Same thing in Sudan.
>>
>> It's not as simple as "everybody hates us" or "everybody loves us" and
>> it never will be.
>>
>> Judah
>>
>>
>
> 

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