I often joke (well..it's mostly joking) that we should pull recall all our soldiers, close the borders and hand a sign on the door that says, "We will get back to you when we get our own shit together"
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:23 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > This, Larry, this :) > > As Scott said, there is no magic bullet, althogh I will say, moving from an > interventionist force to a defensive one would be an excellent start. > On Oct 19, 2012 10:07 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> My issue with both sides is that whenever they discuss cuts, its more >> in context of social engineering. For instance a democratic party rep >> will talk about oil subsidies, but neglect farm subsidies. Similarly a >> republican will discuss cutting back on social programs, but increase >> taxes on the very wealthy or cut back on weapons programs and they >> want to burn you ask the stake. >> >> Perhaps the best idea would be to have an independent group that >> recommends what to be cut. You can set up its mandate in such a way to >> ensure that it would be equitable and not affect the vulnerable in >> society or national security. >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > My wife and I have spent the last year trying to get ourselves out of >> > debt. The first thing we realized is that just cutting spending or >> > just increasing revenue was not going to be enough to get the job done >> > effectively. We needed to cut our spending AND increase revenue - >> > which has been working quite nicely. >> > >> > I cannot see why politicians cannot see the same thing. Republicans >> > think we only need to cut spending. Democrats think we only need to >> > raise taxes. Neither of them is correct. We need to do both. >> > >> > I understand that having a sluggish economy (admitted understatement) >> > adds some interesting variables to the mix, but I think we still need >> > to cut spending AND raise taxes - to some degree. >> > >> > I like Gov. Romney's 'smell test' when it comes to spending. 'Should >> > we be borrowing money from China to pay for this?' Kind of like my >> > wife and I asking, 'Should we be borrowing money from Capital One to >> > go out to dinner?'. >> > >> > I also can't stand that people are looking for 'the silver bullet'. >> > That one budget item that we can cut that will solve everything. My >> > wife and I did not find the extra money we needed every month to cover >> > paying down our debt faster by cutting out a huge expense (like car or >> > mortgage), we found it by eliminating or lowering a lot of smaller >> > expenses. >> > >> > That is why I don't necessarily disagree with Gov. Romney saying he >> > will cut funding to PBS. I think we are more likely to find ways to >> > trim the budget by taking small pieces from a lot of different places >> > than one huge piece from one place. And yes, I know that sound a lot >> > like the budget meeting in the movie Dave. And I also know we are >> > talking about tremendous amounts of money - I still think this concept >> > can scale nicely, though...maybe >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> "No one wants to hear it but as a nation we are bankrupt, morally, >> >> intellectually >> >> and fiscally." >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, this is spot on. >> >> >> >> And all three items are deeply intwined together. If people were more >> >> intellectually aware, they would not accept the fiscal chicanery going >> on. >> >> If our citizens were morally sound, they would not accept pushing debt >> on >> >> future children. >> >> >> >> The shit that is going on in the EU is coming here. Austerity. Wonder >> if >> >> our country will have mass riots while the leaders win the Nobel peace >> >> prize. >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood >> of >> >> patriots and tyrants. - Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> >> When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying >> any >> >> of the growing evils, but by removing the corruption and restoring its >> lost >> >> principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil - >> >> Montesquieu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:356302 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
