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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:22 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: anyone watch last night's debate?


Let's start with how the Benghazi story was first put out, that it was not a
terrorist act, but rather started by a video

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Did you read the transcript of the rose garden speech the following day?
***********************

Fast and furious began under the Bush administration
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It did...Bush also tried doing the same thing and failed as well.
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Says his budget will cut the deficit by 4 trillion over 10 years

You didn't build that
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It was a very true statement.  None of the businesses were built on a
deserted island.
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During 2012 state of the union, said that American oil production is at it's
highest in eight years
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That is true too...There was a boom in one of the Dakota's and Texas that
has reduced the need for imports to forty something percent...down from
sixty something (IK don't recal the exact numbers offhand)
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Says he has done more for Israel's security than any other president
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So does Ehud Barak and Shimon Perez...they also said that
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Said that the jobs bill was paid for
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Which jobs bill?  I don't recell hearing him say that...
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Said that there is no where else in the US to drill for oil
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Bullshit...he never said that.  He has said on several occasions that Oil
companies have plenty of unused drilling areas that they can drill on to get
oil, which is why drilling on public lands has declined
***********

Said that there were no boots on the ground in Libya , but yet the AC-130
gunships just happen to be able to hit their targets without a spotter?
Weird. 
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Unless you have proof, there were no boots on the ground.  Don't you think
they could have used Libyan assets to do that?
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The list goes on and on and these are just some of the things in the last 3+
years I an think of off the top of my head.

And the best one ever (not a lie really, just taking credit for someone
else's work) is how he takes credit for taking troops out of Iraq when in
actuality the plan was already put in place before he took office. And then
he failed to come up with a SOFA agreement to keep limited troops there in
case shit pops off like it has. So basically he left Iraq hanging.

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No...There was no SOFA because Iraq wouldn't agree to our terms.  I think
you need to try harder...
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On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "Eric Roberts"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Then please elaborate on what items Obama was not truthful...
> 
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> Three Ravens Consulting
> Eric Roberts
> Owner/Developer
> [email protected]
> tel: 630-486-5255
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:40 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: anyone watch last night's debate?
> 
> 
> I can say the same for Obama. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4S. 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 6:28 PM, "Eric Roberts"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It should be about the information.  IF all you want is someone that 
>> can deliver a speech, then you have your sights set pretty low.  
>> Don't you care about the fact that Romney has done nothing but lied 
>> his ass off at all of the debates?  Or was his delivery more important?
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> Three Ravens Consulting
>> Eric Roberts
>> Owner/Developer
>> [email protected]
>> tel: 630-486-5255
>> fax: 630-310-8531
>> http://www.threeravensconsulting.com
>> ------------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:04 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: anyone watch last night's debate?
>> 
>> 
>> It isn't what the information is, it's the delivery. You can spout 
>> all sorts of facts but I'd you come off as a jerk, then your just a 
>> knowledgable jerk and I tune you out.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. 
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Is the point he was making invalid? Can you address that?
>>> 
>>> That the sheer number of hulls shouldn't be the measurement of the 
>>> Navy's capabilities?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I thought this infographic that passed through twitter was interesting:
>>> 
>>> http://i.imgur.com/6NgA8.gif
>>> 
>>> On a more humorous note:
>>> http://twitter.yfrog.com/esxtzttj
>>> 
>>> Jerry Milo Johnson
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And I got the impression he was a condescending asshole that at 
>>>> that
>> moment did not appear very presidential at all. Oh, and the army 
>> still has bayonets by the way. We still use them to this day.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have to admit Obama did a good slapdown. So good I have to quote it:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "You mention the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships 
>>>>> than we did in 1916. Well governor, we also have fewer horses and 
>>>>> bayonets, ... We have these things called aircraft carriers and 
>>>>> planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, 
>>>>> nuclear
>> submarines."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not only did he take Romney to task, but made him out to be a 
>>>>> blithering idiot to boot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pity there isn't a fourth debate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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