Gel, The shock factor is gone. I don't find Eminems music shocking. I just find it downright distasteful. Advocating violence and abuse towards women, in whatever form it takes, is just plain wrong. I didn't hear the Beatles or anyone for that matter singing about raping their mothers or killing their wife.
-----Original Message----- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Eminem Yeah well I happen to be one of them that thinks the guy is a lyrical genius. Which you agree with albeit to a lesser degree. You should also therefore have issues with Snoop Dooggy Dog, Dr. Dre, Warren G,Ice Cube (Cop Killer)...and the list goes on and on..Marilyn Manson...The Beatles (in their day)...Iron Maiden...Black Sabbath...Pink Floyd...Madonna All these artists talk about dark periods in their life, going against the establishment sometimes violently, committing or urging to commit suicide, violence against others..sexual irresponsibility..I mean good grief. What Eminem is doing is nothing new, it is nothing that other artists have not done in the past, perhaps the only thing that is new is that Eminem is doing this at a point in time when America is facing a crisis with a new era of Political Correctness, or Censorship to call it what it really is. If this is the way Eminem feels, if he feels fame is a weight on his shoulders, if he beat his wife (something that SEVERAL artists have been accused of, some of which has been proven in courts of law), if he wants to SHOCK society into seeing whats out there beneath it all..then that's his choice. That is his form of expression, whether for commercial reasons, or just self expression. You are not a psychologist. You cannot make any judgements or try to psychoanalyse a commercial artist through their music. You can only analyse their MUSIC, not the artist himself. Have you ever sat with Eminem and TALKED to him..as a person? No. And I think any competent psychologist would tell you that you cannot psychoanalyse someone through their music. It would not give a true representation of that person. It would, perhapse instead, give a representation of YOU. To try to analyse the artist themselves is specious to the extreme. I'll point you to what I think is a much better review of Eminem's new ALBUM, which is incidentally called the eminem SHOW. I wonder why people watch Ultimate Fighting Championship...because they like the fights? Why do some people watch racing, to see the crashes? Why do Soap Operas that display twisted, dysfuntional lives of rich, attractive people appeal to such a broad audience..is it just the drama? What do you have to say about a show like A Clockwork Orange? Or Natural Born Killers?Are these representative of the true nature of the Director? The writer? The Producer?Are they all psychopaths because of the art they produce? Or because such art doesnt fit into some neat Moral Box? Should these all have been banned and censored, and not received 'corporate sponsorship'? Don't kids see these movies too? SO now its the fault of the artists, and what doesn't fit into the Box should be censored, because it would fill the minds of little kids with 'filth'.The prejudice that such a point of view contains is frightening. http://www.dotmusic.com/reviews/Albums/May2002/reviews25212.asp "Marshall Mathers III knows this, of course, which is why the title of album three tips a subtle, knowing nod to the ultimate reality project, The Truman Show. But if he was being truly honest, he would have found some way to twist a pun out of Groundhog Day. Because, like Bill Murray's character who's doomed to live out the same nightmare again and again (and like Jim Carrey's who is stuck in a suburban purgatory), Marshall is trapped within the character of Eminem." http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/30/music-wang.shtml "WHAT MAKES EMINEM SO INFURIATING AND BRILLIANT is the cutting self-awareness of his own pop phenomenon. You could pen volumes on the racial politics behind his stardom, but on The Eminem Show's "White America," Em's already beaten you to the punch, rhyming "Let's do the math/If I was black/I would have only sold half" and laying down this incredible coup de gr�ce, "Look at these eyes/baby blue/baby just like yourself/If they were brown/Shady lose/Shady sits on the shelf" You should also listen to the song "White America" off his album. -Angel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: Eminem > I know there some Eminem fans on this list, so you probably won't like what > I have to say about him, but here's my review of his latest release: > > http://www.globalnewswatch.com/index.cfm?action=full_text&ARTICLE_ID=318&CAT > EGORY_ID=12 > > H. ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
