I agree with you 100% Ray. I believe that parental responsibility is the key! That's why my son won't listen to crap like that until he is old enough and responsible enough.
-----Original Message----- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:29 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Eminem While I don't like Eminem - kids are not his problem. If the parents have a problem with his music, it's their job to make sure the kids don't get the CDs. I can think of plenty of CDs, books, etc, that are not appropriate for children, but that as an adult I enjoy. If the parent can't do their job, it's their fault - not Eminems. -rc > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:26 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Eminem > > > Simon, > > That's the problem. Kids do take him seriously. > > Kevin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:29 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Eminem > > dude - Eminem rocks. People gotta stop taking him so > seriously, though. > > ~Simon > > Simon Horwith > Macromedia Certified Instructor > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > Fig Leaf Software > 1400 16th St NW, # 500 > Washington DC 20036 > 202.797.6570 (direct line) > www.figleaf.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:20 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Eminem > > > Yeah well I happen to be one of them that thinks the guy is a lyrical > genius. > Which you agree with albeit to a lesser degree. > > You should also therefore have issues with Snoop Dooggy Dog, > Dr. Dre, Warren > G,Ice Cube (Cop Killer)...and the list goes on and > on..Marilyn Manson...The > Beatles (in their day)...Iron Maiden...Black Sabbath...Pink > Floyd...Madonna > > All these artists talk about dark periods in their life, > going against the > establishment sometimes violently, committing or urging to > commit suicide, > violence against others..sexual irresponsibility..I mean good grief. > > What Eminem is doing is nothing new, it is nothing that other > artists have > not done in the past, perhaps the only thing that is new is > that Eminem is > doing this at a point in time when America is facing a crisis > with a new era > of Political Correctness, or Censorship to call it what it really is. > > If this is the way Eminem feels, if he feels fame is a weight on his > shoulders, if he beat his wife (something that SEVERAL > artists have been > accused of, some of which has been proven in courts of law), > if he wants to > SHOCK society into seeing whats out there beneath it > all..then that's his > choice. That is his form of expression, whether for > commercial reasons, or > just self expression. > > You are not a psychologist. You cannot make any judgements or try to > psychoanalyse a commercial artist through their music. You > can only analyse > their MUSIC, not the artist himself. Have you ever sat with Eminem and > TALKED to him..as a person? No. > And I think any competent psychologist would tell you that you cannot > psychoanalyse someone through their music. It would not give a true > representation of that person. It would, perhapse instead, give a > representation of YOU. > > To try to analyse the artist themselves is specious to the extreme. > > I'll point you to what I think is a much better review of Eminem's new > ALBUM, which is incidentally called the eminem SHOW. > I wonder why people watch Ultimate Fighting > Championship...because they like > the fights? > Why do some people watch racing, to see the crashes? Why do > Soap Operas that > display twisted, dysfuntional lives of rich, attractive > people appeal to > such a broad audience..is it just the drama? > What do you have to say about a show like A Clockwork Orange? > Or Natural Born Killers?Are these representative of the true > nature of the > Director? The writer? The Producer?Are they all psychopaths > because of the > art they produce? > Or because such art doesnt fit into some neat Moral Box? > Should these all > have been banned and censored, and not received 'corporate > sponsorship'? > Don't kids see these movies too? SO now its the fault of the > artists, and > what doesn't fit into the Box should be censored, because it > would fill the > minds of little kids with 'filth'.The prejudice that such a > point of view > contains is frightening. > > http://www.dotmusic.com/reviews/Albums/May2002/reviews25212.asp > > "Marshall Mathers III knows this, of course, which is why the > title of album > three tips a subtle, knowing nod to the ultimate reality > project, The Truman > Show. But if he was being truly honest, he would have found > some way to > twist a pun out of Groundhog Day. Because, like Bill Murray's > character > who's doomed to live out the same nightmare again and again > (and like Jim > Carrey's who is stuck in a suburban purgatory), Marshall is > trapped within > the character of Eminem." > > http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/30/music-wang.shtml "WHAT MAKES EMINEM SO INFURIATING AND BRILLIANT is the cutting self-awareness of his own pop phenomenon. You could pen volumes on the racial politics behind his stardom, but on The Eminem Show's "White America," Em's already beaten you to the punch, rhyming "Let's do the math/If I was black/I would have only sold half" and laying down this incredible coup de gr�ce, "Look at these eyes/baby blue/baby just like yourself/If they were brown/Shady lose/Shady sits on the shelf" You should also listen to the song "White America" off his album. -Angel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: Eminem > I know there some Eminem fans on this list, so you probably won't like what > I have to say about him, but here's my review of his latest release: > > http://www.globalnewswatch.com/index.cfm?action=full_text&ARTICLE_ID=318 &CAT > EGORY_ID=12 > > H. ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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