One thing I find disingenuous about people complaining about the size of
the military budget is the pure fact that it contains dollars that aren't
spent blowing things up and killing people.  Lots of dollars, actually.

In both Iraq and Afghanistan, we've rebuilt infrastructure in areas
(probably not all, but a lot).

Military members, generally coordinated by the Chaplains, help local areas
rebuild schools, roads, wells and other outreach services.

When natural disasters strike, our military is poised to provide direct
assistance rapidly.

When I was in the Navy, every base has large numbers of non-military
employees, working in the Exchanges, commissaries, guest housing, MWR
facilities, etc.  In fact in many areas in the US rely heavily on their
bases for income with businesses built up around the gates relying on
income from members.  I know most of that remains true.

Also, looking at the subject line, "US Spends $2T in Iraq" is somewhat
misleading.  The most recent incursion in Iraq lasted from 2003-2011, or 9
years.  That averages out to $222 billion/yr if you assume straight
spending.  Unfortunately that headline wouldn't sell as well as the one
used.

You can stop reading here unless you want to deal with my numbers, I'm
working on my MBA and currently in a Financial Analysis course so I took
things a bit further.  My point is that, much like the "so what" comment,
there's a LOT more behind the Defense line in the Federal budget and behind
the numbers spent in any particular theater of operations.  I probably
missed non-blowing-things-up-and-killing-people items that are included in
the spending, it's early ;)

The rest of my analysis is looking at the defense budget compared to other
items, especially in light of sequestration.  That process required, "50%
military cuts and 50% discretionary spending cuts" across the board if my
understanding of the language is right.

Hatton

Looking at
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/05/14/152671813/50-years-of-government-spending-in-1-graphit
shows the "defense" budget at 22% and includes the following
statement:
"Defense spending has shrunk significantly as a percentage of total
government spending. But it remains the largest single category of federal
spending. The figures in the graph include veterans' benefits as well as
funding for current operations."

Even that statement is somewhat skewed when looking at "defense compared to
everything else."  Social programs combined make up 56.8% of the spending,
combining Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Safety Net Programs and
International Affairs.

Those are percentages per year based on NPR's analysis.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2011USbf_11bs1n#usgs302shows
the estimated breakdown in spending dollars, specifically:

Pensions - $780.8 billion (20.37%) - Including Social Security and the
Federal Pension Program
Health Care - $898 billion (23.43%) - Including Medicare, Medicaid, Gov't
funding to R&D
Education - $140.9 billion (3.68%)
Defense - $928.5 billion (24.22%)
Welfare - $471.5 billion (12.3%) - Including Social Safety Net programs
Protection - $57.3 billion (1.5%) - Grants and Loans to State & Local
agencies
Transportation - $104.2 billion (2.72%)
General Government - $29 billion (0.76%)
Other Spending - $173.1 billion (4.52%)
Interest - $250.7 billion (6.54%)

Adding those together, Defense lags social programs 24% to 56% (Pensions,
Health Care, Welfare).


Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com

Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> No Angel, you are right actually and I should be the one to apologize. I
> guess I am just so frustrated with the way things are going in America that
> I lose sight of the fact that yes, what happens to us does have an effect
> on other countries. So please accept my apology and I'll be more mindful of
> what I say.
>
> Bruce
>
> >
> >>
> >> Bruce, you're right. I apologise.
> >> Non Americans have no right to discuss America and its policies.
> >> The US economy doesn't affect any other country.
> >>
> >>
>
>
> 

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