You are not receiving military pay, you Are receiving a VA
compensation...smh


-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:21 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: DUI Checkpoint Refusal


Are we reading the same thing?

Article 2 of the UCMJ. Persons subject to this chapter

Is the title

4 & 5 both cover me personally and they invoke it if you have an id card and
are rated and paid.
On Jul 8, 2013 2:18 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> 802(A)(4 )Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces 
> who are entitled to pay.  VA disability is not pay...it is 
> compensation.
>
> I think you need to reread it.  Section 5 didn't say anything that I
saw...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 12:09 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: DUI Checkpoint Refusal
>
>
> Sections 4 and 5?
>
> Did you read it?
> On Jul 8, 2013 1:06 PM, "Eric Roberts" 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Even then...you are not governed by UCMJ...again...where are the regs...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:49 AM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: RE: DUI Checkpoint Refusal
> >
> >
> > Sorry its 100%\retired
> >
> > http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/ucmjsubject.htm
> > On Jul 8, 2013 12:42 PM, "Eric Roberts"
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The VA is not even under the DoD...it is a separate, civilian agency.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:17 AM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject: RE: DUI Checkpoint Refusal
> > >
> > >
> > > You need to look into that
> > >
> > > If you get compensation or pension above 30% You're still property
> > >
> > > How do you think the va justifies all the shit they do?
> > > On Jul 8, 2013 12:13 PM, "Eric Roberts"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Umm...no...you are not ruled by the UCMJ to get money from the VA...
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:58 AM
> > > > To: cf-community
> > > > Subject: Re: DUI Checkpoint Refusal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is I'm many places and in the UCMJ which I still have to live 
> > > > by because I get va monies On Jul 8, 2013 11:54 AM, "Scott Stroz"
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Adultery is a violation of honor and a social contract, should 
> > > > > that be a crime, too?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, LRS Scout 
> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its a violation of honor and the social contract.
> > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 11:29 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How are you the 'victim'. If I simply stand in your 
> > > > > > > driveway and do not impede you in any way. In what way are 
> > > > > > > you a
> 'victim'?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So everyone should be able to drive how ever fast they 
> > > > > > > want, where they want, whenever they want? Even in a 
> > > > > > > school zone when school is letting
> > > > > > out?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Passing a stopped school bus with flashing red lights is 
> > > > > > > OK with you so long as no one gets harmed?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At least you are consistent, I will give you that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why should perjury be a crime, but not the others? If I 
> > > > > > > lie under oath,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > no one is harmed as a result, who is the victim?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:23 AM, LRS Scout 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm the victim if you enter my land. My rights have been
> > > infringed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Medical? If it's fraud and you're saying you're 
> > > > > > > > something you're not
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > should be a crime. The assaults we're seeing on 
> > > > > > > > alternative medicine
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > medical care are wrong. My body is my own and I should 
> > > > > > > > be able to do
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > it as I see fit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't think we should have speed limits.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think there should be warning lights but not crimes. 
> > > > > > > > Why should I
> > > > > sit
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > a red at 2am with no one in sight?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All of those but perjury shouldn't be crimes, unless and 
> > > > > > > > until
> > > > > > negligence
> > > > > > > > occurs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lying under oath should be a crime. Take the fifth but 
> > > > > > > > don't lie
> > > > > under
> > > > > > > > oath.
> > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 11:12 AM, "Scott Stroz" 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So, 'entering your land' is a crime - albeit 
> > > > > > > > > 'victim-less', but
> > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > > > while intoxicated is not?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If I practiced medicine without a license and only 
> > > > > > > > > helped people
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > one person was harmed in any way, is that a crime?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here are a few other 'victimless crimes' that should 
> > > > > > > > > only be
> > > > > > prosecuted
> > > > > > > > > when/if an accident/harm occurs as a result:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Speed limits
> > > > > > > > > Stopping for a red light Stopping for a stop sign 
> > > > > > > > > Passing a school bus with red flashing lights Passing 
> > > > > > > > > another vehicle without a 'dotted line'
> > > > > > > > > Building code violations Purjury
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And those are the just the ones I thought of in the 
> > > > > > > > > car on the way
> > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > > from a client site.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM, LRS Scout 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The first is a property crime as soon as they enter 
> > > > > > > > > > your
> > > land.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The second is a crime, but with waivers and the like 
> > > > > > > > > > shouldn't
> > > > > be.
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 9:09 AM, "Scott Stroz"
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If someone picks a lock on your home, does not 
> > > > > > > > > > > damage the lock
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > all,
> > > > > > > > > > > touches nothing but the floor as they walk through 
> > > > > > > > > > > your house,
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > leaves
> > > > > > > > > > > without taking or damaging anything...has a crime 
> > > > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > committed?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Based on your previous answers, we should assume 
> > > > > > > > > > > you will
> > > > > answer
> > > > > > > 'no'
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If a person without a medical license practices 
> > > > > > > > > > > medicine, is it
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > crime when/unless someone gets hurt form their
actions?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Based on your previous answers, we should assume 
> > > > > > > > > > > you will
> > > > > answer
> > > > > > > > 'yes'
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:05 AM, LRS Scout 
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We didn't?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ask Louis Farrakhan.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ask a meeting of the sons of confederate 
> > > > > > > > > > > > soldiers, a meeting
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > hibernians, or a native American.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ask me. No crimes, no warrant, they came in my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > home, they
> > > > > laid
> > > > > > > > hands
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > > and they took my property.
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 8:59 AM, "Justin Scott" <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously you are court I'm how these things 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > currently
> > > > > > > > > > > implemented,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm saying is wrong, its immoral.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was active with the Libertarian Party a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > decade ago I
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > agreed with you.  Since then I have seen too 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > many people
> > > > > die
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > drug
> > > > > > > > > > > > > overdoses or killed by drunk drivers to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > continue with that
> > > > > > line
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > reasoning.  That kind of thinking was better 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > suited to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > > ago
> > > > > > > > > > > > > when we didn't have the individual ability to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > so easily
> > > > > > inflict
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > much damage on ourselves or one another.
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