Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original
Pledge in August 1892

Okay so now 1892 is mid 19th century.  Get your facts straight Larry
before posting.


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:15 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News

Considering that the pledge was written in the mid-19th century, then
yes it
is recent.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
> 
> 
> 48 years is fairly recent?  That's almost half the span of the pledges
> life.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:56 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: RE: CNN Breaking News
> 
> Put it this way, would you object if the words were changed 
> to Allah, or
> Vishnu? How about Satan? 
> 
> The constitution is for all citizen, not just some that happen to
> worship
> one particular deity, which is what the pledge of allegiance says.
> moreover
> the phrase under god is a fairly recently addition. 
> 
> Better to maintain the church state separation than imply government
> approval of a particular religion.
> 
> larry
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:39 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: RE: CNN Breaking News
> > 
> > 
> > then dont say the words ;)
> > 
> > nobody has a gun to your head
> > 
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> > EDIETS.COM
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> > ICQ 417645
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beth Fleischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: RE: CNN Breaking News
> > 
> > 
> > > I am an athiest and resented saying "under god"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:30 am
> > > Subject: RE: CNN Breaking News
> > >
> > > > I said that pledge every day in elementary school.  I 
> > turned out fine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:27 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: CNN Breaking News
> > > >
> > > > Wrong one, not the National Anthem
> > > >
> > > > The pledge of allegiance:
> > > >
> > > > I pledge allegiance to the flag
> > > > Of the United States of America
> > > > And to the Republic for which it stands
> > > > One nation; Under God; with liberty and justice for all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: CNN Breaking News
> > > > >
> > > > > ???
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that the commonly accepted version is the following
> > > > (referencesto
> > > > > God
> > > > > do not appear until the 4th verse which in 33 years of 
> > life I have
> > > > never
> > > > > once heard sung [ref:
> > > > http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/spangle.htm]):
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
> > > > > What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
> > > > > Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the 
> perilous fight,
> > > > > O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
> > > > > And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
> > > > > Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
> > > > > O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
> > > > > O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
> > > > >
> > > > > What part of the National Anthem cannot be sung in 
> > public school?
> > > > >
> > > > > will
> > > > > ----
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 

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