Exactly.  I think it has done quite well given the hand it was dealt.  The
secret waiting lists were an unconscionable violation of our trust, but
efforts to improve the VA with adequate funding had a lot to do with that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 9:33 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a
platform...


AS for the VA scandal, its more of a problem of facilities and access.
Because of cuts and increased demands from 12 years of war (courtesy of your
hero G. W. Bush) and over promising they don't have the space simply put. In
the last 25 years the VA has built only one, that is ONE, new care facility.
Compare that to the number built by for profit health care companies. If the
VA had the same level of investment the scheduling scandal never would have
happened. That said, its a systemic problem with the VA system, brought on
by years of increasing demands on the system and trying to make increasingly
fewer resources stretch to cover more and more. And still surveys show that
the majority of vets are very satisfied with their VA care. Now imagine how
well the VA could have done if the system had the right funding.
At times its seems that this country is all for getting its soldiers wounded
and messed up but isn't really concerned about afterwards.
After all what's a few vets in comparison to the shiny new hangar queen F-35
LIghtning II that costs $142.6 million a piece.

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Just look at the VA scandal if you want to know what Obamacare will 
> look like when fully implemented.
> Didn't we just waste around $1 billion dollars trying to get the 
> exchanges working and most failed. How's Oregon doing with their exchange?
>
> .
>
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Eric Roberts < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> ...and Sam...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:40 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform 
>> as a platform...
>>
>>
>> "difficult to lie".
>>
>> you greatly underestimate our political class.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.californiahealthline.org/road-to-reform/2014/then-vs-now
>> > -ho 
>> > w-dire-predictions-about-obamacare-mostly-didnt-come-to-pass?wpisrc
>> > =nl
>> > _wonk
>> >
>> > "A tracker indicates that newly insured patients aren't 
>> > overwhelming doctors.A batch of anecdotal reports suggests that
hospitals'
>> > uncompensated care spending is falling.And a survey of physicians 
>> > finds that -- while many doctors are upset about the law's added 
>> > complexity -- they're generally happy with the pay that they're 
>> > seeing through the ACA's new marketplace plans."
>> >
>> > I guess wants it actually starts working, it becomes very difficult 
>> > to lie lol ^_^ ᐧ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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