the only person who mentioned Bush is you. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > So we're still blaming Bush for everything? The money is there for the VA, > they just abuse it. Obamacare has no chance of being better. > > . > > > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> AS for the VA scandal, its more of a problem of facilities and access. >> Because of cuts and increased demands from 12 years of war (courtesy >> of your hero G. W. Bush) and over promising they don't have the space >> simply put. In the last 25 years the VA has built only one, that is >> ONE, new care facility. Compare that to the number built by for profit >> health care companies. If the VA had the same level of investment the >> scheduling scandal never would have happened. That said, its a >> systemic problem with the VA system, brought on by years of increasing >> demands on the system and trying to make increasingly fewer resources >> stretch to cover more and more. And still surveys show that the >> majority of vets are very satisfied with their VA care. Now imagine >> how well the VA could have done if the system had the right funding. >> At times its seems that this country is all for getting its soldiers >> wounded and messed up but isn't really concerned about afterwards. >> After all what's a few vets in comparison to the shiny new hangar >> queen F-35 LIghtning II that costs $142.6 million a piece. >> >> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Just look at the VA scandal if you want to know what Obamacare will look >> > like when fully implemented. >> > Didn't we just waste around $1 billion dollars trying to get the >> exchanges >> > working and most failed. How's Oregon doing with their exchange? >> > >> > . >> > >> > >> > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Eric Roberts < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> ...and Sam... >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:40 PM >> >> To: cf-community >> >> Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as >> a >> >> platform... >> >> >> >> >> >> "difficult to lie". >> >> >> >> you greatly underestimate our political class. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> http://www.californiahealthline.org/road-to-reform/2014/then-vs-now-ho >> >> > w-dire-predictions-about-obamacare-mostly-didnt-come-to-pass?wpisrc=nl >> >> > _wonk >> >> > >> >> > "A tracker indicates that newly insured patients aren't overwhelming >> >> > doctors.A batch of anecdotal reports suggests that hospitals' >> >> > uncompensated care spending is falling.And a survey of physicians >> >> > finds that -- while many doctors are upset about the law's added >> >> > complexity -- they're generally happy with the pay that they're seeing >> >> > through the ACA's new marketplace plans." >> >> > >> >> > I guess wants it actually starts working, it becomes very difficult to >> >> > lie lol ^_^ ᧠>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
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