The thing is, there aren't nearly enough people to change it the manner
laid out in the condition.

So instead we'll ignore it.

Only that gets us stop and frisk and first amendment areas and the NDAA.
On Jun 12, 2014 11:59 PM, "LRS Scout" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I disagree.
>
> I think absolute, endowed by our creator, natural
>
> They describe the same thing.
>
> Birth right.
>
> But even then, like I said, amend the constitution. Do it right.  Define
> the right better.
>
> Otherwise the first and forth and fifth through eighth and fourteenth mean
> nothing at all.
>
> We have an amendment process.
> On Jun 12, 2014 11:53 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, Tim, quick reminder: Rights are not absolute.
>>
>> None of them. Not a single damn one, enumerated in the Constitution or
>> otherwise amongst the laws deemed Natural.
>>
>> I am a hard core supporter of the 4th Amendment. And the 1st. We've got
>> some agreement in those areas. Still, however, they are not absolute. They
>> exist within a context where rights and responsibilities are, at times,
>> opposed to one another. That is a matter for law, government, and society.
>>
>> Your fetishization of the 2nd Amendment has pushed it beyond reason, to a
>> state where it is considered absolute. That is wrong. It was never that
>> way, in the minds of the Framers or any reasonable leader since. You've
>> lost site of what makes our country great. Get some perspective, dude.
>>
>> Judah
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:04 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Totally screwing up the market in the process.
>> >
>> > Applying pressure on banks to not service gun related businesses.
>> >
>> > Look at what the ATF has been doing to Aires arms, who operates totally
>> > with in the law.  In that specific case the ATF have no legal authority
>> to
>> > do what they're doing, in effect they are the criminals.
>> >
>>
>>
>> 

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