This "made up right to feel safe" you mock has a pretty serious fucking body count associated with it.
And, shit, I tend to be a pretty strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment. You, however, are a nutjob about it. I like guns. I want them around and I want the right to own them. I don't plan on giving handing in guns and singing Kumbaya. Get a fucking sense of perspective though. Judah On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:33 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > I haven't hit you in the nose > > I didn't shoot anyone I want supposed to > > These laws punish the majority for the crimes of the minority. > > Our right to own arms should obviously outweigh any made up right to feel > safe anyone has. > > Why not an amendment? > > If it's such a great and popular idea why not amend the condition in the > manner prescribed? > On Jun 13, 2014 12:26 AM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > And you are dead wrong. > > > > There is nothing absolute. You have the right to free speech, but not > the > > right to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. You have the right to defend > > your person, but not the right to kill someone because you think they > might > > be a threat in the future. Over and over and over again...rights are not > > absolute. Rights exist within the context of other rights and they are > > often times opposed to one another. > > > > You have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (as we > > discuss Natural Rights). So do I. What if my Pursuit of Happiness > conflicts > > with your Liberty? > > > > There are rights and there are inevitably interpretations. I know that > > you'd love to have everything in the Constitution and Natural Law be > plain > > as day in every single damn case, but that is not reality and never has > > been, in the history of our country or anywhere else. That's why we have > a > > political system and a legal system, even though you hate it. > > > > As Oliver Wendell Holmes said: "The right to swing my fist ends where the > > other man's nose begins." > > > > Get off your high horse and engage with reality, Tim. > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:59 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I disagree. > > > > > > I think absolute, endowed by our creator, natural > > > > > > They describe the same thing. > > > > > > Birth right. > > > > > > But even then, like I said, amend the constitution. Do it right. > Define > > > the right better. > > > > > > Otherwise the first and forth and fifth through eighth and fourteenth > > mean > > > nothing at all. > > > > > > We have an amendment process. > > > On Jun 12, 2014 11:53 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, Tim, quick reminder: Rights are not absolute. > > > > > > > > None of them. Not a single damn one, enumerated in the Constitution > or > > > > otherwise amongst the laws deemed Natural. > > > > > > > > I am a hard core supporter of the 4th Amendment. And the 1st. We've > got > > > > some agreement in those areas. Still, however, they are not absolute. > > > They > > > > exist within a context where rights and responsibilities are, at > times, > > > > opposed to one another. That is a matter for law, government, and > > > society. > > > > > > > > Your fetishization of the 2nd Amendment has pushed it beyond reason, > > to a > > > > state where it is considered absolute. That is wrong. It was never > that > > > > way, in the minds of the Framers or any reasonable leader since. > You've > > > > lost site of what makes our country great. Get some perspective, > dude. > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:04 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Totally screwing up the market in the process. > > > > > > > > > > Applying pressure on banks to not service gun related businesses. > > > > > > > > > > Look at what the ATF has been doing to Aires arms, who operates > > totally > > > > > with in the law. In that specific case the ATF have no legal > > authority > > > > to > > > > > do what they're doing, in effect they are the criminals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:370907 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
