This is a great post. Thank you for sharing Bruce.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Having fought in both Desert Storm and OIF, I'll say this:
>
> I fully supported Desert Storm, as did most of the world. To me it was a
> just war for a good cause. Nuff said.
>
> Regarding OIF, I was all for it. I believed that there were WMD's (proof
> was finally discovered recently), and I believed that Saddam should not
> have stayed in power. However, I completely am against how the war was
> executed almost from the beginning. With Rumsfeld supporting a much smaller
> invasion force, to the complete dismantling of the Iraqi Army (IA). There
> were several mistakes made in the opening of the war. One of the biggest
> ones was assuming that Turkey would be OK with the 4th Infantry Division
> launching their part of the invasion from their country. Of course this
> never happened, so we ended up invading Iraq from only the South, not the
> North and South as was originally planned. That left an entire Mechanized
> Infantry division with nothing to do but float around the ocean until they
> could reach a Southern port to move in.
>
> Dismantling the IA did nothing more than produce home grown insurgents
> since the Army was the only source of income for these men. And then trying
> to rebuild the IA didn't work out well either as they had neither the
> inclination to learn our tactics nor did they have any motivation to
> actually try and fight the insurgents since 1). The IA, like the Afghan
> Army were infiltrated with Taliban, and 2). As long as coalition forces
> were there, they knew that we'd do most of the fighting. The result is
> unfolding in that country now. An Army that was otherwise well equipped,
> but soldiers that are lazy and cowardly.
>
> I'm completely against an further action from our servicemen and women
> today beyond protecting the Embassy and the personnel assigned to work
> there. No advise and assist teams should step foot into that country. They
> had the opportunity to have us stay longer to continue training their sorry
> ass soldiers, but Maliki didn't want to sign a Status of Forces Agreement
> (SOFA), so we cut bait and left. Now that the shit has hit the fan, Maliki
> is all for a SOFA. I say tough shit. You got what you wanted - Coalition
> forces out of your country. Now deal with the consequences on your own.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have all my emails from this list since I joined, and occasionally I
> > will search them to find a post that I made.  Today, just for fun, I
> > searched for posts I made or replied to  about Iraq, curious to see
> > how much - if any - my opinion had changed.  Not much.
> >
> > But I was stunned by how different the views posted lately by some of
> > the list members vary from what they felt back in 2004/2005.
> >
> > If you changed your mind about the Iraq War, I am curious as to why.
> > Also, how do you feel about troops going back in to attempt to fix the
> > current mess.
> >
> > Anyone feel like sharing?
> >
> >
>
> 

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