Israel is hardly a democracy.  It is a theocracy....run by Conservative
Jews.  A democracy does not bulldoze the homes of people without due process
or because one member of the family is a terrorist.  You don't punish others
for the crimes of another.  A democracy doesn't constantly encroach on lands
that do not belong to it...that is something their former oppressor was good
at.  A democracy does not purposely attack civilians.  A democracy does not
keep food and needed supplies away from civilians.  That is what
totalitarian regimes do.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:38 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Looks like there may be no choice but war again in Iraq


Israel is a democracy, I was more concerned about the Muslim nations.  The
caliphate will initially fall under sharia.  Iran has a religious council
that basically.

Neither are close to free or democratic nor are they likely to be anytime
soon.
On Jun 30, 2014 8:24 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Then we pull our financial support of Israel and see how well that 
> works out for them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 4:47 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: Looks like there may be no choice but war again in Iraq
>
>
> If we "support democracy" this plan falls apart.
> On Jun 30, 2014 4:50 PM, "Eric Roberts" 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, but as long as Israel keeps acting like an asshole and keeps 
> > invading Palestinian territory, nothing is going to change.  The 
> > settlements need to stop.  They need to stop treating the 
> > Palestinians as second class citizens.
> > We need to support democracy and not ignore a group just because we 
> > don't like their politics.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:01 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Looks like there may be no choice but war again in Iraq
> >
> >
> > Israel has a right to exist.
> >
> > Anything that we do has to keep this as a base requirement.
> >
> > While many Islamic countries have supported the intifada they've 
> > mainly for do as an underhanded means of fighting the west I think.
> >
> > Go to Jordan or Egypt, they don't care about Palestinians.  Also err 
> > have a true multi state solution possible.
> >
> > I think we could win more flies with sugar on this one.
> >
> > What are most of the fatwas against the great Satan about?  What 
> > they view as the occupation of their most holy Arabian peninsula.  
> > The other shit is all mainly secondary.
> >
> > The world is tired of America sticking it's nose in where it doesn't 
> > belong constantly and I for one agree.
> > On Jun 30, 2014 12:07 PM, "Maureen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Only for the Sunnis.  The original aim was to form a new state 
> > > comprised of the Sunni majority areas of Iraq.  That has now 
> > > expanded to include the Sunni majority areas of Syrian, with 
> > > future claims on large chunks of the middle east, including 
> > > Israel.  I'm pretty sure it would not be local self-determination
there.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:59 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't ISIL a representation of local self determination?
> > > > On Jun 30, 2014 11:51 AM, "Maureen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> For the same reason we don't give Palestinians the Left Bank.  
> > > >> It is not ours to give.  Those lands belong to the Syrian and 
> > > >> Iraq
> > people.
> > > >> They should be able to decide who rules there.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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