No, we didn't leave. The land was conquered and we were exiled. We came back. Same cycle again and again. BUT even with the exiles, not everyone left. There has been a constant Jewish presence in the area for literally thousands of years. As for the expansion, look again and you'll see that its in a neighborhood in 'north Jerusalem' which has never been part of any building freeze and is not expected to be disputed in any peace deal. It's a red herring.
So the Hamas command center under the main hospital in Gaza should not be bombed? Oh, it has never been bombed? See, there you go again. "Murdering 230 women, children and innocents" shows clear bias both in the dead (a large chunk are Hamas members) and they were casualties, not murder victims. Avoidable casualties in some cases but as I showed, Hamas is telling their people both to stay at home and/or to come to the homes of terrorist leaders. Bottom line is that there is no rationalization for any of this. Hamas has no reason to be abusing their own people like they do. They have no reason to attack Israel 'just for fun'. They have no reason for putting weapons in civilian locations and/or calling civilians to dangerous locations. And what should Israel do? Keep being attacked and do nothing? Just absorb the damage and deaths without shooting back. Your ignoring the culture of the middle east where someone who turns the other cheek is slapped again and again. Not responding is a show of weakness that calls for more attacks. There's no rationalization in targeting civilians, which is why Israel tries to warn them to leave the area before attacking a rocket site. And if they can't be sure, should they just never attack? Then how will Hamas be stopped? When there is no attacks from Hamas, there is no retaliation from Israel. Basic logic. Don't start a fight and then complain when you lose. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wait...so you LEFT somewhere for thousands of years, then you decide to > come back... > and it is still yours? > > You could be right about the settlement expansion in Gaza > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement#Settlement_expansion > They were all in the West Bank, over 24,000 new homes. > > And yes, even if Terrorists were hiding items in the hospital I still would > not agree with attacking a hospital. > It doesn't matter whether it was Italy, Syria or Israel. It is wrong, it is > not "Acceptable" losses! > > My issue has nothing to do with whether it is or is not a homeland > centuries in the past. It is the present that concerns us all. > And in the present, for decades there are two groups of people. And they > both need to own their states without being controlled by anyone else. > > Murdering 230 women, children and innocents is not the way to move forward, > it is not right and it can never be right. > > I cannot understand the rationalisation of these acts of violence, anymore > than I can understand rationalising firing rockets or missiles into Israel. > It is wrong. > > On 17 July 2014 16:32, Michael Dinowitz <[email protected]> > wrote: > ᧠> > > > > If you don't believe in the Bible, then archeological and historical > > evidence puts us in the land for literally thousands of years. > > > > Pick your poison, but either way, its the homeland of the Jews, a group > of > > people who practice rather strict marriage rites and baring new blood > from > > converts, can trace their genetic lineage across time and space right > back > > to that homeland. > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:371743 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
