That's a terrible atrocious idea.

I have worked to hard to ensure neither of my children join to have them
see this place turn to shit.

The initiation of violence for political means is immoral.

There are legitimate causes did violent response, I've made it through a
couple without it so far.

The men who founded this nation were if the renaissance.  Intellectuals,
philosophers, inventors and scientists.

They didn't fight until given no choice.

We still have the ability to reason as men, the destruction a second civil
war would do to this country would likely be permanent and result in a
balkanization effect. Treating under the union for all time.

Maybe that's what the next cycle of history requires but I'm not yet ready
to surrender to it.
On Sep 8, 2014 11:57 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> It's time for you ilk (you like that term, don't you, Judah...), as
> someone who lacked
> the common sense to vote against Obama, to sit down, shut up, and let
> those of us
> who know what this country needs to get it back on the right course.
> There is no
> room any longer for attempts to compromise with idiots and imbeciles.
>
> Enough is enough.
>
> Let loose the dogs of war.
>
>
> On 9/8/2014 11:48 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> > Cool. Your statements about me pretty obviously show you are utterly
> > ignorant on the subject. Plenty of folks on this list have very differing
> > views on various subjects than I, but I think you'd be hard pressed to
> find
> > anyone here who believes that I am a sheep, that Obama is my master,
> that I
> > am at all ignorant, or that I do not stand up for what I believe is
> right.
> >
> > You should do more listening than talking, Rick. You might learn
> something.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Judah
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Rick Faircloth <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Judah stated:
> >>
> >> "You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, "I've never seen
> >> someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they voted for won".
> >> I really don't care for Democrats as a general rule and I really hated
> >> to have to vote for Obama, but you and your ilk, Rick, make me want to
> >> vomit and you are why we can't have a reasonable political discourse in
> >> this country. It makes me sick."
> >>
> >> First, if you had any brains, you would have voted for Romney. He's been
> >> proven right in all the perspectives that Obama mocked in the debates. A
> >> dog always returns to its vomit, and Obama is having to eat what he
> >> vomited in the debates. Your ilk, Judah, are the kind that makes America
> >> weak, because you can't take a stand for what is right. You think
> >> compromise is the only way forward. You are an appeaser, just like your
> >> master, Obama, for whom you voted. You got what you deserved.
> >>
> >> Conservatives have realized that we have to fight the liberals, led by
> >> Obama, because liberals, like terrorists, believe that their ends
> >> justify their means. That's the reason Obama can constantly lie (just
> >> one case, "You can keep you doctor...") and deceive and not feel guilty
> >> about it in the least. Obama and the liberal ideologues have this
> >> country in tatters domestically and the rest of the world in flames.
> >> There is no reason whatsoever to attempt reasonable discourse with
> >> radical liberals. They can't reason. They must blindly follow ideology,
> >> even when it doesn't product good fruit.
> >>
> >> So, yes, we've given up on dialogue. We're at war, politically, and we
> >> will fight to the finish. If the liberals don't like the fight, they can
> >> always give in and have what they say they want everywhere: peace. But
> >> they'll have it only on our terms, not theirs. Here's the line in the
> >> sand. And unlike Obama's, we mean what we say.
> >>
> >> You can vomit all you want, Judah, as long as you surrender any liberal
> >> causes that are unpalatable to those of us who believe we know what is
> >> best for this country. We have watched for 6 long years as Obama and
> >> other radical liberals have marched us down the path of socialism
> >> domestically and weakened out ability to combat evil in this world. We
> >> are mocked in the rest of the world and no one takes us seriously as a
> >> superpower, because Obama believes that America should be considered
> >> only an equal to any other country in the world, be it Russia or
> Somalia.
> >>
> >> American is distinctive and unique and will be a force for good in this
> >> world, or, by our lack of leadership, will allow the world to fall into
> >> even more chaos that it already has.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/8/2014 9:58 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth <
> [email protected]
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills.
> >>>>
> >>> You mean the double digit votes to "repeal" the Affordable Care Act?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, pass
> them
> >>>> (if he could),
> >>>> and then force the House to have to wrestle with a bill?
> >>>>
> >>> No, that wouldn't be smarter, for the reasons I already stated. Please
> >> pay
> >>> attention.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they don't
> >>>> have to take a
> >>>> vote, show their stripes, and be held accountable by a public that has
> >>>> soured on
> >>>> all things democrat, including Obama with a 38% approval rating.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Except that Republicans have an even worse (by far) approval rating
> than
> >>> Democrats.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And the entire reason you have a hard-core Tea Party wing, is that the
> >>>> conservative
> >>>> public got tired of the rampaging hard-core liberals running
> rough-shod
> >>>> over the
> >>>> country.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I would disagree on the reasons. And when was the last time there were
> >>> rampaging hard-core liberals running rough shod over the country? FDR?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That now works both ways, too. (Unless Obama and his IRS can
> >>>> successfully shut down
> >>>> the conservative groups by hunting them down and running them out of
> >>>> business.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Which, of course, was a lie from day one. Please, do tell me which
> groups
> >>> the IRS denied status to, for political or other reasons.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Rick
> >>> You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, "I've never seen
> >>> someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they voted for
> won".
> >> I
> >>> really don't care for Democrats as a general rule and I really hated to
> >>> have to vote for Obama, but you and your ilk, Rick, make me want to
> vomit
> >>> and you are why we can't have a reasonable political discourse in this
> >>> country. It makes me sick.
> >>>
> >>> Judah
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> 

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