And I'm not sure who cares, Ray. Having your approval
is of no significance to me, or any other thinking person.


On 9/9/2014 11:04 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:
> My opinion of some people on this list has changed...not for the better.
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Rick Faircloth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't slap my wife, but Ray Rice is not me and neither is he
>> obliged to be.
>>
>> If a woman doesn't want to risk being hit by a man, then SHE needs to
>> exercise
>> restraint before she starts a physical confrontation. In today's world
>> of EQUALITY
>> all bets are off at that point. No one should be allowed to attack
>> someone physically
>> and then be exonerated of all guilt and consequences.
>>
>> If you can't win a physical fight, don't start one. That's the safest
>> route a woman can take.
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/2014 10:46 AM, Scott Stewart wrote:
>>> The  shot that Rice threw wouldn't pass most states reasonable force
>>> statutes if he hit a man.  All he needed to do to defend himself would be
>>> to block her slaps as they came in.  This is a no brainer. Rice is guilty
>>> of assault.
>>>
>>> Better question,  would you feel justified in knocking your
>> wife/girlfriend
>>> /significant other out she slapped you...?  If your answer is yes then
>>> you've got bigger issues.
>>> On Sep 9, 2014 10:38 AM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> Women want equality. They don't want to be treated as "weaker."
>>>>
>>>> These are the consequences of feminism.
>>>>
>>>> You can't have it both ways.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2014 10:33 AM, GMoney wrote:
>>>>> What is with all these false equivalencies????
>>>>>
>>>>> All these arguments of "Well, IF she was a man..." are completely
>>>>> irrelevant.  She's NOT a man.
>>>>>
>>>>> ANd i know we want to treat anything and everything and everyone as
>>>> equals,
>>>>> but folks, there is simple nature at work here....and human males,
>>>>> generally, are larger and stronger than females. I have no problem with
>>>> our
>>>>> laws and our general sense of moral decency reflecting that.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a woman half your size attacks you with a slap...you do NOT have the
>>>>> moral right to land a left hook that looked like something out of
>> Tyson's
>>>>> PUnch Out.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that double standard bothers you......deal with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today the wife apologised for her role in the incident.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the wife was an athlete, and stronger than Rice, and the same thing
>>>> had
>>>>>> happened
>>>>>> I just don't think that anyone would be blaming her 100% for what
>>>> happened.
>>>>>> There is a total skew when it comes to situations involving violence
>>>>>> between a man and a woman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also did not see two punches. I saw a single slap when she charged
>> him
>>>>>> with fists flying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was not a passive abusive scenario. It also was not a scenario
>>>> where
>>>>>> the wife was fighting back to protect herself, she was the aggressor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
> 

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