That's all I've been trying to say, Eric...
On 9/9/2014 8:12 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > Personally I think they should both be castigated for using violence. I > don't know if I would necessarily call her a victim...she looks like she was > able to beat the crap out of him in return...not to excuse what he > did...both should have assault charges filed. Unless it can be shown that > she was purely defending herself...that is the standard that police use. If > both parties are hitting each other...both parties get arrested to sort it > out. > > -----Original Message----- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:35 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Ray Rice > > > Days... > On Sep 9, 2014 7:33 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does-no >> t-rule -out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Ray Rice >> >> >> No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop >> inferring from my remarks. >> >> I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I >> would not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a >> stranger, even a woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the stranger > would be shot. >> For >> instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot. >> I'm not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting > someone. >> She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow her >> to kill me? >> >> But, concerning dressing provocatively: didn't you say you have >> daughters, Scott? >> Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, >> why not? >> >> >> On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>> Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked his >> fiance >>> unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way. >>> >>> As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one of >>> proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend >>> himself by shooting her? According to you , he was being assaulted, >>> and, following your 'logic' he should be bale to respond how he sees > fit, right? >>> I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying 'she >>> was asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened and in >>> the process condoning his actions. Just like when people say, 'look >>> at how >> she >>> was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth >>> <[email protected] >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow a >>>> man >> the >>>> right to rape her. >>>> >>>> However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to >>>> defend himself. >>>> >>>> In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her to >>>> defend herself. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, asshole, it reeks of "she was asking for trouble." >>>>>> >>>>> When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed >>>>> provocatively? >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372280 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
