I would say that he caused the problem the moment he decided that punching his soon-to-be wife in the face was the best way to respond to the situation.
There is no one else to blame but him. He threw the punch - no one else. Actions have consequences, it is about time some of these professional athletes realize that. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > Scott, let's say your omniscience is wrong. > > And a month or two, or more from now it comes out that they were a couple > that had problems, > but there was no ongoing domestic abuse. They were working things out, and > then this came along and ruined everything for them. > > What would you say then? > > On 9 September 2014 22:13, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The media did not destroy a family... Ray Rice did, the moment he decided > > the best course of action to resolve the situation was to punch his > > soon-to-be wife in the face. > > > > I mentioned on Facebook, she is practically a textbook case of someone > who > > is abused. Letting them 'sort out their problems' may result in her death > > (or his if she decides she is tired of being abused). The biggest red > flag > > is that she has blamed every one, including herself, except for the > person > > who the the punch. > > > > Do yourself a favor and go on Twitter and search for #WhyIStayed to get a > > glimpse of what some victims of abuse go through and what their state of > > mind is/was. > > On Sep 9, 2014 9:32 PM, "Vivec" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah, I know what you meant. > > > But the comparison .... you can't make a comparison like that. > > > > > > And I don't see anything wrong with my view that > > > A) his actions were disproportionate > > > B) It was an altercation between two adults > > > C) they were both to blame for what happened. > > > D) The "intervention" of the media did nothing to help the couple or > > their > > > situation > > > E) Since February there has not been any other reports of domestic > > violence > > > at all. > > > F) There is just not enough evidence at all to say that in that > couple's > > > relationship there was a history of violence on either side. > > > > > > They were in a Casino, she was stumbling to the elevator, they were > > > probably both very drunk. > > > This isn't an excuse for either of them, but the entire situation needs > > to > > > be viewed objectively. > > > Remove the "knockout" , what are you left with? > > > > > > If she's fine, she didn't seek help, they got married...nothing > happened > > > from February to now... > > > leave the people alone let them sort out their problems and live their > > > life. > > > > > > She is not a little child that needs the world and adults that know > > better > > > to look after her. > > > > > > What the media has done is effectively destroyed a family. They haven't > > > helped her, and they haven't helped him. > > > They have destroyed a family. > > > > > > Hey, you know what? Maybe in a month more information will come out and > > we > > > will find out that it was a horrible abusive relationship. > > > Some cousin or uncle or friend will come out and say , yeah, he was > > always > > > hitting her. Or she was always cussing and hitting him. > > > > > > But as of right now? That's not the case. > > > > > > On 9 September 2014 21:11, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I am not, and I feel safe in assuming you know that - maybe I am > giving > > > you > > > > to much credit. > > > > > > > > I am trying to see if disproportionate response is something Rick > would > > > > ever consider. > > > > > > > > To be honest, I had very little respect for Rick before this whole > > thread > > > > started, and his response do not really surprise me. But, Gel, I am > > > > flabbergasted by some of your comments - both here and on Facebook. > It > > > just > > > > does not jive with the impression I have gotten over the years - > > > > apparently, I am not the only one. > > > > > > > > I will say this one more time. There is NOTHING she did to deserve > > being > > > > punched in the face and knocked unconscious. His life was never in > > > danger. > > > > His response was way over the top. Can we please stop painting him as > > the > > > > victim? > > > > On Sep 9, 2014 9:00 PM, "Vivec" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are comparing an adult woman to a 12 year old child? > > > > > Do you think women are like little kids unable to take > responsibility > > > for > > > > > their actions, and know right from wrong? > > > > > > > > > > Dropping the charges doesn't mean that she didn't do anything, > > > > > it means that the lawyers decided it wasn't worth it to prosecute, > > and > > > > they > > > > > had a stronger case against him. > > > > > > > > > > On 9 September 2014 20:47, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later > > > > dropped. > > > > > > He was then charged with aggravated assault. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you > > guys > > > > > think > > > > > > they were also 'looking for trouble'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372317 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
