I have to agree with you, Ray.  I'll tell you - I'm very proud of myself....
not my race.  I don't prescribe to the idea of being proud of a race ....
being proud of the cultural contributions of your race is fine if you're
into that - but I prefer to be proud of the more relavent current state of
affairs of a people.  Like you, I've married into a completely different
culture (Asian).  I did visit and did fall in love with India, and though my
"legal nationality" is that of the US and UK (dual citizenship), I am a very
proud Indian.  Theirs is a beautiful culture - an amazing blend of ancient
tradition with modern 'western' ideas.  I'll tell you something else - one
day I will just disappear into the Indian subcontinent.  Back to what you
were saying - everywhere I went in India, I was accepted and celebrated as
an Indian....in fact, I am frequently told that I'm more Indian than many
"real Indians" my age.... blood has nothing to do with it.  It's all about
attitude, values, and respect for the heritage and culture of a people.  I
like India as an example - depending on what part of India you're in the
people could have fairer skin than me, or be darker than most any race
you've ever seen.... and they're all very proud to be part of the same
society.  Likewise, I am proud to be a part of that as well.... not proud of
the race per se, but proud of what that race has acheived (and is still
continuing to acheive) from a local and global stand point.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
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-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:24 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh


> 
> I dont' think anyone gets labled a racist for being proud of 
> their race.
> 
> Perhaps for not seeing where minorities need to be more aware 
> of their race
> than the majority though.
> 

Which brings up a point - why even be proud of you race? As far as I
know, no one accomplished anything because they were white or black or
French or German. They accomplished something as a person. For every N
example of a great person of race Y, I'm sure you can find N*99 people
who haven't done crap. I can't take credit for Einstein just because he
and I are both white, nor should I feel bad that Hitler was white. I can
understand being proud of your country, but what does that have to do
with blood or race? If I fall in love with South Korea and decide to
move there and immerse myself in the culture and become a citizen, etc -
I assume I can consider myself a proud South Korean - but it certainly
doesn't have anything to do with my blood.

Now that I think of it - one could say that in many cases, there is a
close ratio of race to country, and America is probably the exception.
What do others think?

-Ray



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