/me tries to start a fight Fusebox sucks! It now does a wonderful job of vastly over complicating a beautifully simply language, and imho causes far more issues than it solves.
However, I can see the advantage of using it on large projects with lots of programmers, but as I usually work alone or with one other programmer it's next to no advantage for me. /me sits back and waits for the flying stale muffins -----Original Message----- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 July 2002 13:54 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Throwing the baby back Don't let Hal Helms hear you say that. The Fusebox specification is a set of core files which are distributed with a demo to help you learn how to work. In addition, several companies have been releasing 'add-ons' such as FuseQ which aid in Fusebox development. Maybe the Fusebox council needs to do a little more to promote awareness of their product. M -----Original Message----- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:06 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Throwing the baby back --=====================_342938296==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I know the subject of "Fusebox" has been hacked to bits many times over on the cf-talk list. But, as of last time I checked, the only fusebox "specification" was some sample code files. That leaves too much about the methodology open to interpretation. Fusebox seems to be a way to organize files and code, but does not inherently teach good coding practices. The Fusebox folks are supposed to be working on a real specification, and if so I cannot wait until they release that, because it'll change the "game" so to speak. At 07:49 AM 7/16/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:05:55 -0400 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) >Subject: Throwing the baby back >Message-ID: <07df01c22c7e$15f319b0$6401a8c0@seferot> > >Years ago I helped give birth to what was supposed to be something great >for CF; a methodology to help organize code and enforce best practices. If >I knew then what I knew now, I'd have tried to kill it before it got started. >Yes, I'm ranting a bit. I'm helping out a friend with a project and >modifying a commercial product (one he paid money for). Now you'd expect >that a commercial product would have good code, right? You'd expect that a >product that supposedly followed a methodology would have good code, >right? That the code would be written intelligently, that it would not >repeat itself or fall over itself, right? Well, this code is poorly >written, does not use any best practices (I see CFSETs with pound signs >around everything), uses one of the Fusebox methodologies (one of as the >methodology has splintered) and is just not good code. And I have to make >it good code. >I'm going to start CF classes. If you write bad code, you get hit with a >shock prod. If you release bad code, you get abused by a large bull (let >your imagination run free here). It'll be learn it right and tight or wish >you were in a Turkish jail being interrogated by Abdul. ><end of rant> > >Michael Dinowitz >Master of the House of Fusion >http://www.houseoffusion.com -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a Web Developer? Contact me! AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My CFMX Book: <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20> My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Band: http://www.farcryfly.com --=====================_342938296==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <br> I know the subject of "Fusebox" has been hacked to bits many times over on the cf-talk list. <br> <br> But, as of last time I checked, the only fusebox "specification" was some sample code files. That leaves too much about the methodology open to interpretation. Fusebox seems to be a way to organize files and code, but does not inherently teach good coding practices. <br><br> The Fusebox folks are supposed to be working on a real specification, and if so I cannot wait until they release that, because it'll change the "game" so to speak. <br><br> At 07:49 AM 7/16/2002 -0400, you wrote:<br><br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:05:55 -0400<br> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz)<br> Subject: Throwing the baby back<br> Message-ID: <07df01c22c7e$15f319b0$6401a8c0@seferot><br><br> Years ago I helped give birth to what was supposed to be something great for CF; a methodology to help organize code and enforce best practices. If I knew then what I knew now, I'd have tried to kill it before it got started. <br> Yes, I'm ranting a bit. I'm helping out a friend with a project and modifying a commercial product (one he paid money for). Now you'd expect that a commercial product would have good code, right? You'd expect that a product that supposedly followed a methodology would have good code, right? That the code would be written intelligently, that it would not repeat itself or fall over itself, right? Well, this code is poorly written, does not use any best practices (I see CFSETs with pound signs around everything), uses one of the Fusebox methodologies (one of as the methodology has splintered) and is just not good code. And I have to make it good code. <br> I'm going to start CF classes. If you write bad code, you get hit with a shock prod. If you release bad code, you get abused by a large bull (let your imagination run free here). It'll be learn it right and tight or wish you were in a Turkish jail being interrogated by Abdul.<br> <end of rant><br><br> Michael Dinowitz<br> Master of the House of Fusion<br> <a href="http://www.houseoffusion.com/"; eudora="autourl">http://www.houseoffusion.com</a></blockquote><br><br> <x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> --<br> Jeffry Houser | <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; eudora="autourl">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> <br> Need a Web Developer? Contact me! <br> AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773<br> --<br> My CFMX Book: <<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instantcoldfu-20"; eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072225564/instant coldfu-20</a></u></font>><br> My Books: <a href="http://www.instantcoldfusion.com/"; eudora="autourl">http://www.instantcoldfusion.com</a><br> My Band: <a href="http://www.farcryfly.com/"; eudora="autourl">http://www.farcryfly.com</a> </html> --=====================_342938296==_.ALT-- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
