Hi Ben !!

Great name, sir - IMNSHO <g>.

Even more confusing - you're in Canada (.CA), I'm in 
California (CA)

If you are also an inveterate punster, then we're 
*really* in trouble!!

And re: Bens, let's not forget Uncle Ben (Forta), praise 
be on his head and his wonderful books !!

-Ben
> I have to agree with Ben here. There sure are a lot of Ben's here. :)
> 
> Most smokers just don't seem to understand that they're causing my
> headaches or other ailments because I'm breathing what they claim is
> their right. 
> 
> I personally regard most smokers in the same group as potheads because
> it's stupid and makes no sense. I would avoid hiring a smoker, and I'm
> seeing more and more companies thinking the same way. Smoking in any
> restaurants here is prohibited now. Yes!
> 
> Here in Canada (read in a study a couple years ago) it's actually
> cheaper for the government if citizens smoke and die early from
> cancer/etc. than live longer and use health care resources for age
> related ailments. With that in mind, I'm more accepting that people
> smoke but if someone wants to smoke around me, prepare to have your
> personal space violated. 
> 
> And I think Tim Heald has it backwards. If he wants to smoke, he should
> stay home and away from the rest of us. 
> 
> Also, I don't understand how smokers can defend something they clearly
> know is unhealthy, harms others (even if unintentional), waste of money,
> etc.  I mean come on, get a grip!
> 
> Anybody else feel the same way?  Or disagree?  :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat
> 
> Tim-
> 
> you say "I am a smoker ... It's my body..."
> 
> If you can equate your right to smoke with your right to 
> eat Big Macs, you're forgetting an important point:
> 
> When you smoke near other people, the side-stream 
> (second-hand) smoke is being forced on them. 
> 
> When you eat, it directly affects only you.
> 
> are you taking responsibility for the effect your 
> personal decision to smoke has on them?
> 
> I am an asthmatic. If you exercise your personal rights 
> and smoke around me, what about *my* right to breathe?
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> > I would have to say that maybe it's not all that different than
> smoking.
> > 
> > 1.  Everyone knows both products are bad for them.
> > 
> > 2. The people who whine about each the most are either hypocrites
> (still
> > using the product) or they are former users.
> > 
> > I think suing the cigarette manufacturers (especially if you win) is
> just as
> > stupid as this.
> > 
> > I am a smoker.  I know it causes cancer and all sorts of other
> problems.
> > It's my body and I know I am personally responsible for my actions
> where
> > smoking (or a big mac) are concerned.  How is it that the nation that
> was
> > founded on the idea that personal rights and responsibilities far out
> way
> > those of the community, has fallen to such a low.
> > 
> > Bah, makes me sick sometimes just thinking about it.  Oh well "Who is
> John
> > Gault?".
> > 
> > Anyone feel like helping me start a community of people of ability
> somewhere
> > in the woods. We'll run a couple of T-3s out there and call it a day.
> > 
> > What was it called?  Galt's Gulch?
> > 
> > Tim Heald
> > Developer
> > Schoollink, Inc.
> > 910.223.2116 x 122
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:24 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat
> > >
> > >
> > > ahh not this again!! :) Maybe we'll get lucky and the greedy SOB
> > > will have a
> > > blocked artery and then he can sue them for his stroke too.
> > >
> > > WaAAAA I'm fat cause I am addicted to big macs. Get off it dude.
> This is
> > > completely different then smoking, you have to draw the line of
> personal
> > > responsibility somewhere. Just like these morons that spill burning
> hot
> > > coffee on their crotch. AHH how did that happen??
> > >
> > > Oh was it the fact you had it between your legs duh moron!. I'm glad
> you
> > > cant reproduce because you obviously come from a defect genetic line
> lol.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Wheatley
> > > Senior Database Developer
> > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> > > EDIETS.COM
> > > 954.360.9022 X159
> > > ICQ 417645
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:57 AM
> > > Subject: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat
> > >
> > >
> > > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58652,00.html/
> > > >
> > > > NEW YORK - Want a class-action lawsuit with that burger?
> > > >
> > > > A New York City lawyer has filed suit against the four big
> fast-food
> > > corporations, saying their fatty foods are
> > > > responsible for his client's obesity and related health problems.
> > > >
> > > > Samuel Hirsch filed his lawsuit Wednesday at a New York state
> > > court in the
> > > Bronx, alleging that McDonald's, Burger King,
> > > > Wendy's and KFC Corporation are irresponsible and deceptive in
> > > the posting
> > > of their nutritional information, that they
> > > > need to offer healthier options on their menus, and that they
> > > create a de
> > > facto addiction in their consumers,
> > > > particularly the poor and children.
> > > >
> > > > "You don't need nicotine or an illegal drug to create an
> > > addiction, you're
> > > creating a craving," Hirsch said. "I think
> > > > we'll find that the fast-food industry has not been totally up
> > > front with
> > > the consumers."
> > > > The suit does not specify the amount of damages Hirsch and his
> > > client are
> > > seeking.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
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