(here we go)

>>that they're causing my
>>headaches or other ailments because I'm breathing what they claim is
>>their right.

Let's see, when I take a smoke at work, I walk outside, about 30 yards to a
designated smoking area.  The only others around are other smokers. How are
you affected? 

Funny that you mention this.  Yesterday, I and two other smokers were out at
the smoking area.  Our supervisor happened to walk out there to talk to us.
She is a non-smoker.  She could have waited 5 minutes, and talked to us in
the office.  She chose to join us.  Were we forcing her to smoke?

OK, your SUV uses too much gas, you can't have it.  Your guns (or those of
other gun owners) are used in to many crimes, you can't have them.  Your
fast food is making you fat and I have to pay for your heath care, no more
for you.

Your sedentary life style is causing health problems, you are required to be
in front of my house at 4:30 for mandatory exercise.  You better be there.

No, you can't think that way, it bothers me.  Think the way I tell you.

You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.


Matt


>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ben Arledge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:25 PM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: RE: Smokers (was: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat)
>>
>>I have to agree with Ben here. There sure are a lot of Ben's here. :)
>>
>>Most smokers just don't seem to understand that they're causing my
>>headaches or other ailments because I'm breathing what they claim is
>>their right.
>>
>>I personally regard most smokers in the same group as potheads because
>>it's stupid and makes no sense. I would avoid hiring a smoker, and I'm
>>seeing more and more companies thinking the same way. Smoking in any
>>restaurants here is prohibited now. Yes!
>>
>>Here in Canada (read in a study a couple years ago) it's actually
>>cheaper for the government if citizens smoke and die early from
>>cancer/etc. than live longer and use health care resources for age
>>related ailments. With that in mind, I'm more accepting that people
>>smoke but if someone wants to smoke around me, prepare to have your
>>personal space violated.
>>
>>And I think Tim Heald has it backwards. If he wants to smoke, he should
>>stay home and away from the rest of us.
>>
>>Also, I don't understand how smokers can defend something they clearly
>>know is unhealthy, harms others (even if unintentional), waste of money,
>>etc.  I mean come on, get a grip!
>>
>>Anybody else feel the same way?  Or disagree?  :)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Ben
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:43 AM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: RE: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat
>>
>>Tim-
>>
>>you say "I am a smoker ... It's my body..."
>>
>>If you can equate your right to smoke with your right to
>>eat Big Macs, you're forgetting an important point:
>>
>>When you smoke near other people, the side-stream
>>(second-hand) smoke is being forced on them.
>>
>>When you eat, it directly affects only you.
>>
>>are you taking responsibility for the effect your
>>personal decision to smoke has on them?
>>
>>I am an asthmatic. If you exercise your personal rights
>>and smoke around me, what about *my* right to breathe?
>>
>>-Ben
>>
>>
>>> I would have to say that maybe it's not all that different than
>>smoking.
>>>
>>> 1.  Everyone knows both products are bad for them.
>>>
>>> 2. The people who whine about each the most are either hypocrites
>>(still
>>> using the product) or they are former users.
>>>
>>> I think suing the cigarette manufacturers (especially if you win) is
>>just as
>>> stupid as this.
>>>
>>> I am a smoker.  I know it causes cancer and all sorts of other
>>problems.
>>> It's my body and I know I am personally responsible for my actions
>>where
>>> smoking (or a big mac) are concerned.  How is it that the nation that
>>was
>>> founded on the idea that personal rights and responsibilities far out
>>way
>>> those of the community, has fallen to such a low.
>>>
>>> Bah, makes me sick sometimes just thinking about it.  Oh well "Who is
>>John
>>> Gault?".
>>>
>>> Anyone feel like helping me start a community of people of ability
>>somewhere
>>> in the woods. We'll run a couple of T-3s out there and call it a day.
>>>
>>> What was it called?  Galt's Gulch?
>>>
>>> Tim Heald
>>> Developer
>>> Schoollink, Inc.
>>> 910.223.2116 x 122
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:24 PM
>>> > To: CF-Community
>>> > Subject: Re: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ahh not this again!! :) Maybe we'll get lucky and the greedy SOB
>>> > will have a
>>> > blocked artery and then he can sue them for his stroke too.
>>> >
>>> > WaAAAA I'm fat cause I am addicted to big macs. Get off it dude.
>>This is
>>> > completely different then smoking, you have to draw the line of
>>personal
>>> > responsibility somewhere. Just like these morons that spill burning
>>hot
>>> > coffee on their crotch. AHH how did that happen??
>>> >
>>> > Oh was it the fact you had it between your legs duh moron!. I'm glad
>>you
>>> > cant reproduce because you obviously come from a defect genetic line
>>lol.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bill Wheatley
>>> > Senior Database Developer
>>> > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
>>> > EDIETS.COM
>>> > 954.360.9022 X159
>>> > ICQ 417645
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:57 AM
>>> > Subject: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58652,00.html/
>>> > >
>>> > > NEW YORK - Want a class-action lawsuit with that burger?
>>> > >
>>> > > A New York City lawyer has filed suit against the four big
>>fast-food
>>> > corporations, saying their fatty foods are
>>> > > responsible for his client's obesity and related health problems.
>>> > >
>>> > > Samuel Hirsch filed his lawsuit Wednesday at a New York state
>>> > court in the
>>> > Bronx, alleging that McDonald's, Burger King,
>>> > > Wendy's and KFC Corporation are irresponsible and deceptive in
>>> > the posting
>>> > of their nutritional information, that they
>>> > > need to offer healthier options on their menus, and that they
>>> > create a de
>>> > facto addiction in their consumers,
>>> > > particularly the poor and children.
>>> > >
>>> > > "You don't need nicotine or an illegal drug to create an
>>> > addiction, you're
>>> > creating a craving," Hirsch said. "I think
>>> > > we'll find that the fast-food industry has not been totally up
>>> > front with
>>> > the consumers."
>>> > > The suit does not specify the amount of damages Hirsch and his
>>> > client are
>>> > seeking.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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