Cameron-

what a terrific post!!

wondered why you had been so much quieter :-)

you're right about the therapeutic value of vacations, 
unless you bring a major stressor with you :-( - next 
vacation will be just the wife and I !

I sometimes get "simmered out" - the pace of my job is 
slower than most of you developers, very little 
overtime, few life-or-death project deadlines. Not doing 
very much rocket science, but a lot of balsa wood 
airplanes <g>.

This can make it easy to get bored or complacent, tasks 
that should take minutes don't get done. The same kind 
of "refresh" as with burnout can work there too I found.

Have a good one, sir.

-Ben


> I'm right there with you man...  Two years ago I think I was one of the top
> 10 or at least 20 posters to cf-talk.  Nothing like Dave Watts mind you, but
> pretty consistently.  I lived and breathed CF (and any related technology I
> could get my hands on).  I started the Atlanta CFUG, I worked 60-70 hour
> weeks at home and in the office, weekends etc... but I loved it!  Went to
> every conference, read every post on every mailing list...
> 
> Wrote an intranet system from scratch - by myself.  big deal, but the
> company spun it out into a separate company (www.neighborware.com), got
> funding...  Hired developers...  Flew all over the country selling it to
> companies...  Then I just got tired of it all.  Started coming in to work
> late, not really giving things my all...  We had enough smart developers at
> the company to keep things going without me there all the time, so it wasn't
> a huge deal...  I stayed with the company for awhile, but then I just had to
> move on.  Wasn't doing it for me anymore.  Company was healthy and moving
> along fine...  Somewhere in there I resigned my position as ACFUG president.
> Didn't feel like I had the time or passion that the group deserved to be
> devoted to it.
> 
> I resigned and left the company...  Didn't have a job lined up when I made
> the decision, but things soon fell into place and I started another new
> company.  I have a few clients.  It pays well, and I do have fun doing it.
> But I'm still struggling to get the passion back. It's on it's way back
> right now, though slowly... The passion is still in there someplace, I can
> feel it, but it doesn't show it's head as often as it use to.  Occasionally
> it does, and the end result is a frenzy of coding that does more in one day
> than I sometimes do in a whole week - two weeks even.
> 
> I am excited about CFMX, and want to play with it a lot more than I have,
> but sometimes I find myself just sitting down staring at the monitor and
> simple tasks which should take be 2 minutes take be half an hour.  I spent a
> few good solid evenings with the CFMX betas and managed to bang on it enough
> and submit enough bugs to win a prize...  but haven't really used it alot
> since then...  I still post to CF-Talk, CFDJList, CF-Community, ACFUG's list
> occasionally...  But now as consistently as before.
> 
> The biggest thing that's helped me so far...
> 
> Take a vacation - a long one - no, I mean a really really long one.  Minimum
> of one week but two or more if you can afford it.  Don't bring a computer
> with you.  Don't check your email.  Don't bring anything technology related
> with you.  No tech mags to read on the plane, nothing.  It doesn't have to
> be a 3 week international odyssey, but it helps to get away from home.  Long
> camping trip, maybe a long visit to out of town family, or even stay in
> town, but get out of the house.
> 
> Also...  I for one ALWAYS come back super-charged from DevCon, CF-North, or
> any other tech conference in our field.  I get to hang out with people I
> only see at the conferences, and talk about crazy fun projects that everyone
> is working on.  I get to hear about how they are using technology in ways I
> haven't thought of, and I get exposed to tons of new things...  It's like
> the vacation thing, except the polar opposite.  You take a trip away from
> home and totally immerse yourself in the technology for a few days.  Charges
> me right back up, and I come back with a head chock full of new ideas and
> plans.
> 
> Other than that I also agree with what others have said about hobbies and
> such.  Though I have yet to really stick to one.
> 
> Ok, I really didn't mean for this to be such a long guts-spilling post, but
> I feel better now...  Perhaps we need a cf support group for recovering
> burnouts?  hehe...
> 
> -Cameron
> 
> -----------------
> Cameron Childress
> Sumo Consulting Inc.
> ---
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> aim:   cameroncf
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 1:01 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Burnout
> >
> >
> > I need help guys...
> >
> > Currently I would definitely describe myself as burnt out. It's been
> > a gradual process, but I'm definitely there. I don't have the burning
> > desire to immerse myself anymore like I used to because there was so
> > much to learn.
> > There are a few different reasons, that I imagine are pretty common
> > reasons for burnout. Learning experiences are few and far between, and
> > lack of confidence in management (not the business side, but the
> > project management.) All the standard reasons for burnout I guess.
> >
> > Anyway, any tips on combating burnout?
> >
> > --
> > jon
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > 
> 
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