Wow. I was pretty much kidding.
I was just poking at Bill since he was poking at everyone else. And since I am an evil man who stirs up trouble, I want to say I personally _do_ complain to the USPS at least once a month about the flood of junk mail I receive in my mail box. I complain for three reasons. I don't want the mail. The Post Office is subsidising the junk mail by charging _lower_ rates to bulk mail "spammers", and charging ever higher rates for the actual commerce-based mail and personal mail. In most cases, the junk mail is not actually _mailed_. Much of it is now delivered to the Post Office in bulk, and the postman adds it to every delivery himself. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/02 07:40PM >>> Have you ever run a half dozen or so mail servers for a couple thousand domains, or an ISP? How about both at the same time? It's hell trying to keep the spam nazi's at bay. We have many more problems with the nazi's than we do with spammers. Actually I can think of only 3 times someone has spammed from our system in 3 years (1 of which we caught as it was happening and stopped it), but the number of times we have been blacklisted is probably near 9 or 10. The funny thing is, that none of the blacklists were for actual spam, some were legit misconfig's on our side, but most are lame testing scripts from these guys who have their own agendas. Not to mention that even though they know everything about email, they can't send a warning email to postmaster before blacklisting. That in an of itself should tell you something. They are on power trips. The biggest problem I have is the people who want to have all ISP's block outgoing port 25. Screw them, they are idiots. They can all pay the support bill that enabling smtp auth will cause as well. All of the big spammers these days have their own connection to a backbone anyway. The only solution to spam is a major technical overhaul of the internet, away from transparency, or legislation. I'd prefer to see anti-spam legislation wrapped up in a consumer protection bill as well. Any bill outlawing spam directly is going to be ineffectual, unless the receiver can go after the company who spammed. Another problem is the ISP's where some punk spam nazi set up an anti-spam system and then leaves, and something goes wrong. I once spent 2 weeks bugging one ISP in particular to fix their system, and remove us from their system. They didn't have anyone on staff who understood the system! -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 3:32:55 PM, you wrote: JJ> How can that possibly be a good note unless you are on the side of _evil_ (read spammer)? JJ> I hope the ISPs and spam blockers get MORE strict (and also more correct). JJ> Please Santa, pretty please! JJ> Jerry Johnson >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/02 03:13PM >>> JJ> But on a good note i hope the lawsuit a few BULK mailers are filing aganist JJ> major ISPS and SPEWWWS and spamcop go well and they get there stupid black JJ> holes removed and let it be a little less fanitical about when you are able JJ> to block bulk emails. JJ> ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
