I wasn't saying love it or leave it. I in no way disagree with having a descenting opinion. Which would be fine if that was all Kevin had. But his comment of I am thinking of moving to France because I disagree...I say fine, if you don't want to be here, go. I am not going to hold your whiney hand because you didn't get your way politically. If you think running to another country will solve your problems, then fine, go. I don't think it unpatriotic to disagree, I do think it disrespectful of the system to say you are going to leave and then not do it (IE Alec Baldwin).
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: US Love it or Leave it (was RE: France?) > Isaac Dealey of www.turnkey.to had a very good response to this love it or > leave it argument. > > -- > I've never cared for this statement... I don't much care for the US gov't, > laws, policies ( foreign or domestic ) etc. but it's not always as easy as > "shut up or get out" ... Some of us actually would like to change the things > we find troublesome or sometimes downright "wrong" about the way this > country operates, because we don't want to leave our families, friends or > homes behind to move out of the country. Even for those of us who may not > care to stay in the country, leaving isn't always an easy thing to do > either. It usually means finding a job in another country or learning > another language or both. > > We cultural critics don't present our criticisms necessarily because we > dislike the people here or because we think some place else is better, but > because we see things we feel need to change. Often we also don't know how > to go about changing these things we feel need to change, or rather, don't > have ready-made solutions, and so a lot of people see us as being > "whiners"... but really we're just trying to raise awareness of various > things we see as problems. > -- > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:47 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > Please, if you don't want to be here go. Take Alec Baldwin > > with you too. > > > > Would you reconsider your position if the Iraqi people begin > > dancing in > > the streets as soon as their ruthless dictator (and his > > sadistic son) are > > toppled. Maybe, just maybe, the Iraqi people are as fearful of > > Saddam as the Afghan people were of the Taliban. > > > > Or do you think our liberation of Afghanistan was a bad idea? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:06 AM > > Subject: RE: France? > > > > > > > Honestly why am I asking? Well after this latest decision by our > > government > > > to approve of the slaughter of people and the overthrow of > > a sovereign > > > government with no evidence of impending threat it has put > > me into a mind > > to > > > wonder where else I might live. The south of France came to > > mind, but some > > > people really seem put off by France and I don't know why. > > > > > > Kevin Graeme > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:36 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > Have been to France several times, anywhere other than Paris it's > > > > great, the > > > > people are really friendly as long as you at least try to speak > > > > some french, > > > > however, I cannot stand Paris or the Parisiens, most > > french people can't > > > > either from what I understand. > > > > > > > > I do however like to take the piss out of france and the french, > > > > it's fun if > > > > a little easy, I am English though, and we like to take > > the piss out of > > > > everyone, including ourselves. > > > > > > > > What's the reason for your'e question anyway, you > > planning on visting > > our > > > > french *cough* friends? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
