Will, Gotta disagree here. Currently the possession of an illegal firearm is usually not a long sentance. This is now going to become a 5 year mandatory term.
Over here, there were an estimated 9000 gun related incidents in 2002. I think in the late 90s there were around 2000. The increase is directly attributed not only to the import of illegal guns from Eastern Europe, but also to the 'gangsta' culture that is indemic in certain areas of the country. They are now considering arming police in 5 or 6 cities due to the gravity of the situation. You've got to realise that in certain ghettos being armed is part of the culture. You don't go anywhere without a weapon. Thankfully Bath doesn't have that much of a problem. When guns become part of the culture, like having the latest mobile phone, you need to provide a detterant that really does work for those that are just packing a weapon for the sake of it. Thankfully prices are high in this country. You can get a gun for around �400 (about $600). Adam > -----Original Message----- > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 January 2003 18:57 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Tighter? > > > So you think a criminal who cares not for laws will care about > another law? > interesting > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: Tighter? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:46 PM > > Subject: Re: Tighter? > > > > > > > i think you guys are missing the point > > > > > > the laws WONT HELP > > > people who want guns can still get guns ;) > > > > But getting a gun here is much harder as there are so few in > circulation, > > that also makes them much more expensive for a criminal to buy. > > > > Also as the penalties are so much higher for possesing or using a gun, > less > > criminals want them. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:18 PM > > > Subject: Re: Tighter? > > > > > > > > > > I think you are both missing the point, the incident that > has prompted > > > this > > > > was a shooting incident in which two people died. It made headline > news, > > > and > > > > still is making them a week later. > > > > > > > > How many people died in the US from gun related crime in the same > period > > > and > > > > did any of the shootings make national headline news for a week? > > > Especially > > > > (and I really do hate to say this) as the shootings were of > two Black > > > women > > > > in an area which is known for "drug wars" and street gangs? > > > > > > > > This is a rare ocurrance in the UK - thanks to tight gun laws, we > don't > > > want > > > > it to happen again so the laws will be tightened further. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:29 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Tighter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a bunch of idiots. > > > > > > > > > > They kept saying how great their laws were and all the NON gun > > killings. > > > > > Does anyone understand the concept that criminals dont give a rats > ass > > > > about > > > > > laws? > > > > > > > > > > Thats the whole thing about being a CRIMINAL, breaking laws. > > > > > The only thing tighter laws will do is make it so its even harder > for > > > > > > > regular people to have guns and the criminals will still > have them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:15 AM > > > > > Subject: Tighter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ds-osac.org/view.cfm?key=7E475C404455&type=2B170C1E0A3A0F162820 > > > > > > > > > > Hehe I love the 5th paragraph: > > > > > > > > > > "The shootings brought into focus the availability of illegal > firearms > > > in > > > > the UK and the willingness by criminals to use them." > > > > > > > > > > Timothy Heald > > > > > Assistant Webmaster > > > > > Overseas Security Advisory Council > > > > > U.S. Department of State > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
