Angel,

Where are you from?

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:16 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK


Not just Europe.
Other parts of the world share this view too.

Excesses in policy decisions as a result or using 9/11 as an excuse.

That the war on Iraq is more for Oil than anything else, especially in
light of North Korea's posturings.
If Bush was to be true on his rhetoric N. Korea should get a smack down
before Baghdad.

The fact that you can't talk out against the war or anything else that
Bush is doing because that makes you either unpatriotic,
or with the terrorists..or just plain stupid.

There's truth in almost everything this reporter is saying.

But as with most things..it can be rebutted..debated..ad inifinitum.
I tend to agree with this point of view , however.

Unless the US has some secret evidence that shows that there is some
major plot afoot aided and abetted by Iraq..or that they have
nuclear/biological  weapons and are ready to launch..then I don't see
how they can attack without a UN Resolution. And if they say f*** the
UN..then why all the posturing to get a resolution in the first place?

-Gel



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I am curious from those of you in the UK and other parts of Europe how
widely this view is held.

Andy

  The [London] Times
   January 15, 2003
   OPINION
   The United States of America has gone mad
   by John le Carr�


   America has entered one of its periods of historical
   madness, but this is the worst I can remember: worse than
   McCarthyism, worse than the Bay of Pigs and in the long
   term potentially more disastrous than the Vietnam War.

   The reaction to 9/11 is beyond anything Osama bin Laden
   could have hoped for in his nastiest dreams. As in
   McCarthy times, the freedoms that have made America the
   envy of the world are being systematically eroded. The
   combination of compliant US media and vested corporate
   interests is once more ensuring that a debate that should
   be ringing out in every town square is confined to the
   loftier columns of the East Coast press.



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