True. Interesting enough, South Korea is scared to death of the north collapsing. They would be unable to absorb the economic impact of either open borders or a joining like East & West Germany.
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK Another aspect is neighboring countries and our relationships with them. South Korea currently is engaged in their "Sunshine Policy" towards North Korea and is valiantly trying to open up North Korea using peaceful trade deals. South Korea is also a significant trade partner with the U.S. and their wishes go a long way towards our foreign policy towards N.Korea. Now, what about Iraq? Other than Israel, there isn't a country in the Mid-East that has as much say about Iraq as South Korea does about North Korea. Sure there are countries which we are in oil deals with, but they don't appear to have the influence, nor are they going to bat quite like the case in Korea. Besides that, the whole European attitude is less anti-American as it is anti-Bush. -Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:51 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK > > > There is another difference between North Korea and Iraq, one that we are > trying to maintain -- 1 has nuclear weapons and one does not. > > I haven't yet seen a logical discussion about why each should be > treated the > same since they are each violating different agreements, with different > implications and have differing abilities to retaliate. > > However, we are each a victim of our knowledge or lack thereof, > so I am very > interested in what the rest of the world is hearing and believing..... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:28 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK > > > Gel, > > Do you remember the Gulf War? > > Do you remember who surrendered? > > Do you remember what agreements they signed to stop the shelling? > > Those are the sticks being used to go after Iraq. They have violated the > agreements they signed which made the Coalition stop attacking them. They > started it. They agreed to the rules. Now they are (going to) pay the > consequences for violating them. > > Why does everyone forget these simple facts? Do they mean nothing? Do the > agreements not count, suddenly? Should there be no penalties for > violations? > > North Korea on the other hand does not have such a sword hanging > over their > heads. The only agreements they signed were economic in nature. We can > threaten to starve them out, but they may not notice. But they are > definitely touchy. Say the wrong thing, and they might launch an attack. > They beat us back to a tie the last time we tangled (with help, > but still). > Completely different situation. > > Jerry Johnson > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/03 04:15PM >>> > Not just Europe. > Other parts of the world share this view too. > > Excesses in policy decisions as a result or using 9/11 as an excuse. > > That the war on Iraq is more for Oil than anything else, especially in > light of North Korea's posturings. > If Bush was to be true on his rhetoric N. Korea should get a smack down > before Baghdad. > > The fact that you can't talk out against the war or anything else that > Bush is doing because that makes you either unpatriotic, > or with the terrorists..or just plain stupid. > > There's truth in almost everything this reporter is saying. > > But as with most things..it can be rebutted..debated..ad inifinitum. > I tend to agree with this point of view , however. > > Unless the US has some secret evidence that shows that there is some > major plot afoot aided and abetted by Iraq..or that they have > nuclear/biological weapons and are ready to launch..then I don't see > how they can attack without a UN Resolution. And if they say f*** the > UN..then why all the posturing to get a resolution in the first place? > > -Gel > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I am curious from those of you in the UK and other parts of Europe how > widely this view is held. > > Andy > > The [London] Times > January 15, 2003 > OPINION > The United States of America has gone mad > by John le CarrT > > > America has entered one of its periods of historical > madness, but this is the worst I can remember: worse than > McCarthyism, worse than the Bay of Pigs and in the long > term potentially more disastrous than the Vietnam War. > > The reaction to 9/11 is beyond anything Osama bin Laden > could have hoped for in his nastiest dreams. As in > McCarthy times, the freedoms that have made America the > envy of the world are being systematically eroded. The > combination of compliant US media and vested corporate > interests is once more ensuring that a debate that should > be ringing out in every town square is confined to the > loftier columns of the East Coast press. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
