No, Ben.

I agree wholeheartedly.

If I am not willing to do my part, then how can I expect anyone else to do so?

And if the only people on a jury are those not smart enough to avoid service, we are 
in deep trouble.

Of course, I also feel the same way about taxes.

Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 09:18AM >>>
*sigh*  Am I the only one here who feels like it's my duty?  I mean, there's
a lot of talk around here about various parts and pieces of the
Constitution, and how they mean a lot to various people, but I'm getting the
(hopefully incorrect) feeling that trial by jury isn't one of those pieces
that means something.

:-(


--  Ben Doom
    Programmer & General Lackey
    Moonbow Software, Inc

: -----Original Message-----
: From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:52 AM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: Benefits of jury duty..., new thread - forced JD
:
:
: hhaha I heard a good quote one time i like.
:
: Why cant you fool a jury they are the people that are the ones
: who cant find
: a good reason to get out of jury duty
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:17 PM
: Subject: Re: Benefits of jury duty..., new thread - forced JD
:
:
: > So, I've never had to serve on a jury - but something I've always
: > wondered about - they can't force someone who is supporting their family
: > to go on jury duty, can they? Or how about a single guy/gal - what if
: > they can't afford to pay rent because they can't go to work?
:
: They most certainly can, and they will.  Hospital stays and military
: deployments are typically honored, but the rest is fair game for jury
: selection.  If they didn't do it this way then everyone would have an
: excuse.  It's kind of like a civilian version of being called up from the
: Reserves for duty to your country.
:
: If the jury candidate can document clear cause for relief from
: service, then
: that _sometimes_ works, but not always.  And some courts require jury
: candidates to show up in person to make their claim for relief with
: documentation in hand.  Every court is different, so make sure to
: check, and
: get the rules in writing (or a printout from the court's website), not by
: what some clerk tells you.
:
: I know a guy who was heavily medicated for a heart condition which also
: required that he not undergo stress.  He was scheduled for an out-of-town
: business meeting weeks in advance of his jury notice; he explained his
: situation to the court clerk who told him he shouldn't have a
: problem being
: relieved from duty.
:
: He assumed this meant there wouldn't be a problem if he didn't
: show up.  Big
: mistake.
:
: During his business meeting a few states away from home, no more
: than three
: hours after he was supposed to arrive for morning jury selection, federal
: marshalls arrived with handcuffs drawn and an arrest warrant in hand.
:
: The marshalls brought him back to his home state and in front of
: the judge,
: where he explained his situation and also his physician called the court
: clerk with an explanation for the judge.  Everything was finally resolved
: and he was relieved from service, but it took an affidavit from his
: physician to be filed to get him relieved.
:
: One piece of advice: never say to a judge, "You can't do that."  They love
: to hear it, because it's always so much fun to prove you wrong.  Don't try
: to use layman's logic in determining what a judge can and can't
: do, because
: that's mostly up to his discretion.
:
: Respectfully,
:
: Adam Phillip Churvis
: Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion
:
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