Not for murderers. I think there are certain lines, that once crossed are
final. If we had a place like that weird zone in superman to send these
people then that would be fine with me. They dont have to die, but they do
have to be gone. I mean gone away from the rest of society, not just in
prison.

Certain people are not redeemable. It's just a fact. 

Am I that much in the minority?

Wow...

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:26 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: And we thought texas was bad


John,

Do you believe in rehabilitation?

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: And we thought texas was bad
>
>
> What?
> >>So then by advocating what is in essence Sha'ria, (the islamic
> law) then
> >>what's the moral difference between you and a member of Al Queda?
>
> There is a big difference. First of all, I am not a cowardly member of a
> fanatical middle eastern terrorist organization.
>
> Second of all, so what you are saying is we should not punish people for
> committing crimes that are against the laws of our land?
>
> If I disagreed with the law, or felt it was unjust then I would
> do whatever
> I could as a citizen to get the laws changed. I do not disagree
> with the law
> that says if you murder your children or anyone else for that matter then
> you should be executed.
>
> I think you are confusing my points with the religious idiology of the
> islamic interpretaion of the koran.
>
> I am not religious at all. I do however feel that there are certain
> boundaries that once crossed by a member of our society, that these people
> now become the chaff while the rest of us are the wheat. Once they commit
> these crimes (specifically murder) but you could also make a case
> for rape,
> and other serious crimes; then they have chosen by their own actions to be
> treated to the punishment that our laws allow.
>
> If you think that people are not barbarians, perhaps you could
> visit Rwanda?
> Or Kosovo, or Iraq or any prison or jail anywhere?
>
> The sad fact of that matter is that most individuals are not barbaric, but
> people as a whole are, and that will never change.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:41 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: And we thought texas was bad
>
>
> So then by advocating what is in essence Sha'ria, (the islamic law) then
> what's the moral difference between you and a member of Al Queda? What's
> next, stoning because of adultery, requiring women to wear
> burkas? What you
> are advocating is no different.
>
> I am not arguing for or against her, I am saying that if a person is so
> psychologically messed up that they cannot tell the difference between
> right and wrong, then what is gained by executing her? There is no
> punishment, only retribution then. That gives us the moral equivalency of
> barbarians.
>
> larry
>
> At 09:13 AM 3/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >I dont equate a woman purposely drowning her children with
> terrorists. She
> >is a crimminal. It doesnt matter whether she was "legally sane" or not.
> Just
> >the fact that you would argue for her, after what she did makes
> me sick to
> >my stomach.
> >
> >She should be beheaded.
> >
> >Sure, I'm all for the cutting off of hands for theft. Or perhaps
> you think
> >that the current system is working? What is cheaper for society, to house
> >these idiots for the rest of their lives or take care of the problem?
>
>
> 

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