YES!! Mike! Mike!
RUN BENCHMARKS!! RUN BENCHMARKS!!

Download 3DMark2001SE and run it! 
That's what I use to benchmark...its freeeeeee from www.madonion.com

Tell us the 3DMark score. Don't get the newest version because that one
just sucks and only tests the GF4s so it won't be any good for the
majority who don't have GF4s. 0_0

3DMark2001SE will test the GF4 and we'll be able to gauge it against all
the other cards too...

Let us know! Let us know! :)

-Gel

-----Original Message-----
From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I'm speechless to find out that kind of thing is going on, and didn't
mean to offend anyone if I was dissing their machines. If people are
toting these things around to conventions so they can to show them off,
good for them!

(I would personally rather carry a laptop, but that's just me.)

This debate has really made me want to check out one of these machines
for myself. My cousin Charlie bought an Alienware custom P4 3Ghz about a
month ago for $4500 and thinks it is the fastest, most hardcore machine
there is. He will be at my apartment tonight, and I am going to try to
talk him into bringing his investment over (since now I can tell him
everyone is doing it).

I will put it up against the AMD 2200+ with the 1.5 GB RAM and the
NVIDIA 4600 I use for development to see how they compare. My box cost
about $1500 to build (including the $25 case), and it is an excellent
machine that will give this AW P4 3.0 Mhz box a run for its money. I
will post my findings afterwards, and let everyone know based on my
firsthand experience if the $3000 price difference was worth it, or if
you really are just being Blinged on performance.

M

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