What about new sign-ups can't vote?  Say if the contestant's are announced
on March 1st.  Then new subscribes after April 30th, aren't allowed to vote
until next year?

You know, I'm sure this is very close to the conversation that probably
happened in a CFDJ conference room!

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Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CFDJ Heaviest Advertiser awards Reborn.


If they're the HOF awards, how about 1 vote per membership?  That way,
instead of looking at every vote, you just have to look at new signups to
make sure no one's swamping them.  And I doubt there are enough
double-subscribers to skew the results.

In other news, I dig chicks with short hair.  maybe it's because I have long
hair.  Wait!  There's the solution!  You need a cool ponytail like me,
Mikey!

And stop scaring me with talk about giant plastic penii!


--  Ben Doom
    Programmer & General Lackey
    Moonbow Software, Inc

: -----Original Message-----
: From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:29 PM
: To: CF-Community
: Subject: Re: CFDJ Heaviest Advertiser awards Reborn.
:
:
: I think we can do it. All that's needed is 'real' security, a
: board of people
: that can help form and edit the categories, and another board
: (same one?) that
: can watch ALL the data coming in from the votes.
: 1 person, 1 email address, 1 vote. Registration to vote will
: result in an email
: being sent to the email address to make sure that the person
: exists and has the
: right to vote.
: Knowledgeable watching of votes. If [EMAIL PROTECTED],
: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all vote, the board should be aware that
: they're all the
: same MD (or probably are) and should call those votes into question.
: Those are just some thoughts as I worry about my wife and her new
: haircut. It
: looks like she joined the other team. Not that she's playing both
: sides, but
: totally on the other team. I'm debating going over to the hair
: salon where she
: got it and beat them to death with a 3 foot plastic dildo. I'm
: that upset about
: it.
:
: > If you can come up with a system that we can all agree is
: reasonable, I'm
: > sure we could get Mikey to endorse it.  Of course, that's a
: pretty hairy IF
: > clause.  :-)
: >
: > So, start drafting your proposal.
: >
: > Hell, if you can come up with a system that everyone on the
: list agrees is
: > fair and equitable, I'll even voluteer my time to write the code.  How's
: > that?
: >
: > In the meantime, I'm gonna take every award won with a grain of salt.
: > Except the Grammys, 'cause "Who let the dogs out" really /was/ the best
: > techno song that year.  :-)
: >
: > --  Ben Doom
: >     Programmer & General Lackey
: >     Moonbow Software, Inc
: >
: > PS -- 'Gel, don't get too worked up.  I know how you feel about
: that song.
: >
: > : -----Original Message-----
: > : From: Mike Randolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:03 PM
: > : To: CF-Community
: > : Subject: RE: CFDJ Heaviest Advertiser awards Reborn.
: > :
: > :
: > : Hello Ben,
: > :
: > : I do appreciate how you feel and I'll leave it alone as I
: don't want to
: > : annoy further, but it is my sincere hope that they unfix the
: voting next
: > : year or that Michael or some other reputable ezine replaces
: them as the
: > : award to win.  I do appreciate every ones support both on list and
: > : off...THANK YOU!
: > :
: > : Kind Regards,
: > : Mike Randolph
: > :
: > : At 02:53 PM 6/5/2003 -0400, you wrote:
: > : >Um....  I've seen several direct replies against your opinion on
: > : the list.
: > : >Or do you mean mailed directly to you?
: > : >
: > : >So people who reply on list get one vote, and people who reply
: > : off-list get
: > : >two votes...
: > : >
: > : >Just so you know, I started out agreeing with your right to be
: > : annoyed.  I
: > : >didn't agree that the results were as skewed as you implied
: (and later
: > : >stated), but I figured you were venting and went on with my life.
: > : >
: > : >At this point, though it may be unfair of me, I am beginning to
: > : cringe every
: > : >time I see you post on this thread.  Hell, I didn't even read
: > : the last half
: > : >of the original thread, and only picked the Reborn thread up
: > : because I was
: > : >hoping someone would say something new.
: > : >
: > : >I voted in the CFDJ awards.  I think I got 2 votes (I'm an
: > : electronic free
: > : >subscriber, so I'm not sure where that puts me).  If I had a
: > : strong feeling
: > : >about a product/site/doohicky, I voted for it.  Go HOF!  I did
: > : not vote for
: > : >Able Commerce, not because it's a bad product, but because I've
: > : never used
: > : >it and so have no first hand experience positive or negative.
: > : Honestly, I
: > : >can't even say offhand whether or not I voted in that particular
: > : category.
: > : >I can honestly say that I wasn't unduly affected by ads.
: I'm also smart
: > : >enough to recognize when ads are influencing my opinion.  Like
: > : when I really
: > : >want to go to Dairy Queen.
: > : >
: > : >In the end, your continued complaints have (in my eyes,
: anyway) hurt your
: > : >own reputation far more than they have hurt the CFDJ awards.
:  By now, you
: > : >just sound like a bad loser.  I understand that you disagree
: with their
: > : >methods and, therefore, results.  I respect your right to
: > : complain about it.
: > : >If you want to double the number of emails you send to this
: list, that's
: > : >your perogative.  However, I don't think it's going to make
: Able Commerce
: > : >win, nor will it make most of the people here think that it should.
: > : >
: > : >*sigh*  rereading this, I don't want you to think tht I'm trying
: > : to tear you
: > : >down.  I just think that maybe you ought to take a moment to
: > : think about how
: > : >you want to be percieved.  That's all.
: > : >
: > : >And with that, I'll shut up.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >--  Ben Doom
: > : >     Programmer & General Lackey
: > : >     Moonbow Software, Inc
: > : >
: > : >: -----Original Message-----
: > : >: From: Mike Randolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : >: Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:12 PM
: > : >: To: CF-Community
: > : >: Subject: RE: CFDJ Heaviest Advertiser awards Reborn.
: > : >:
: > : >:
: > : >: Hello Everyone,
: > : >:
: > : >: FYI I've now receive 7 direct replies about this thread
: > : agreeing with me
: > : >: and none against!  The gist of there replies
: > : >:
: > : >: 'I cannot agree with you more about everything you've said. I
: > : >: can't believe
: > : >: that CFDJ
: > : >: hasn't even considered the implications of their actions.'
: > : >:
: > : >: Kind Regards,
: > : >: Mike Randolph
: > : >:
: > : >: At 10:04 AM 6/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
: > : >: >Hello Angel,
: > : >: >
: > : >: >My post was a ctrl-C ctrl-v off of CFDJ's site so I'm quite
: > : sure it's the
: > : >: >facts.
: > : >: >
: > : >: >I feel the love
: > : >: >Mike
: > : >: >
: > : >: >At 01:52 PM 6/5/2003 -0400, you wrote:
: > : >: > >You don't have facts.
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >You have your own opinion.
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >-Gel
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >-----Original Message-----
: > : >: > >From: Mike Randolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >Hello Angel,
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >I'll just bring the topic back to the point at hand.
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >As part of our 2003 Readers' Choice Awards Voting
: Process - ACTIVE
: > : >: > >subscribers (Ad viewers) of ColdFusion Developer's Journal
: > : >: votes will be
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >qualified as 2 points in our voting tally. New subscribers
: > : votes will
: > : >: > >count
: > : >: > >as 1 point. Subscription records are verified as of the
: > : start of voting
: > : >: > >-
: > : >: > >March 31, 2003.
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >This is like the voting process in 3rd world countries...
: > : ah I'm behind
: > : >: > >so
: > : >: > >all my supporters get to vote AGAIN.
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >Kind Regards,
: > : >: > >Mike Randolph
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >P.S. I still haven't looked up specious yet, but I'm fairly
: > : confident
: > : >: > >it's
: > : >: > >a dig :).
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >1. So long as Macromedia is selling ColdFusion we'll be
: > : supporting it!
: > : >: > >2. Yes I do have a tendency to rant and yes I am a bit
: too sure of
: > : >: > >myself
: > : >: > >at times.   I research topics that interest me
: completely so I speak
: > : >: > >with
: > : >: > >confidence, not arrogance.  Just the facts mam.
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >
: > : >: > >
: > : >: >
: > : >:
: > : >
: > :
: >
: 

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