First...
WMD was a lame excuse to go kill Hussein anyway...it was a diversion,
and you are still getting diverted. Bush is a good politician, whether
you agree with him or not.

-Some facts that I do not think are arguable:
-We know he had chem/bio in the 80's, the US probably gave him the tech even.
-We know he still considered himself at war with the US.
-Saudi Arabia wanted US troops off their soil, and so did Bin Laden.
-Hussein was financing Palestinian terrorism.
-The Israeli/Palestinian issue is the number most visible roadblock to getting
 cooperation of the Arabs in tracking down terrorists.

Given those facts, the US could not ignore Hussein. He was a credible
threat.

What were the non-war options?
Go to the UN and try and isolate him further?
I do not think that would have been effective. He had Syria on his
side.

Direct negotiations?
Not a chance. They probably tried and failed in secret.

Even if Bush didn't follow my chain of reasoning, it all adds up to
the same thing in the end. My only criticisms are that it could have
been done cheaper with better planning and more resources for
the post-war phase, but then again, perhaps the real plans haven't
even unfolded yet.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 10:48:15 AM, you wrote:
AS> This does not follow logic.

AS> You are saying:
AS> 1) The US might have lied,but it doesn't matter. 
AS> This implies that there ARE no WMD to be found.

AS> 2)You then go on to say,"we'll find WMD or maybe not but they were there
AS> and were in violation "


AS> 2) contradicts 1).

AS> If the US lied then the WMD were never there, and therefore Iraq didn't
AS> get 'what was coming' to it. 
AS> It was attacked by a hostile force.

AS> I am not a US Hater. 
AS> Don't try to cloud the issue by labelling those opposed to your view as
AS> 'haters'.

AS> -Gel

AS> -----Original Message-----
AS> From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

AS> Of course it matters if hes lieing then the Voting US Citizens
AS> will/should vote his stupid ass out.

AS> All he had to say was saddams crimes he didn't have to make up anything.
AS> But personally i'm pretty sure we'll find WMD or maybe not but they were
AS> there and were in violation and he got what was coming to him.

AS> US haters will be us haters regardless of anything anyway

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