just to beat this dead horse a little further -- I just did a search in the 
HoF archives for any discussions on this before I joined these lists, and 
the one additional mention, http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box, produces 
the same result. (Maybe this is where Google gets its technology?)  Anyway, 
"to die" is still translated as "matrix" for some bizarre reason, and "say" 
as "word" -- Grumble. I may have to start a fund raising drive just for 
this. I am pretty sure the email I was answering was English out of one of 
these services... meaning my answer probably looks a lot like that to her. 
Unless the translation to Spanish is a lot better than the translation to 
French.

Dana


On Fri, 30 May 2003 20:16:12 -0600, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> I believe this has come up several times on cf-talk, and the consensus is 
> always a that a human translator is best. While I do agree with this I do 
> not have a budget for translation at the moment, nor do I have any truly 
> bilingual volunteers. Given enough time I can probably handle French 
> myself but most of our email seems to come from Latin America. The 
> current plan is to set up a link to Google's language tools, but I am 
> really not happy with it. AltaVista's tools seem no better. Does anyone 
> on this list know of a better tool out there?
>
> Dana
>
> PS - to demonstrate the scope of the problem, I am pasting below the text 
> of an actual email, translated on Google.
>
> First of all, I am very sorry about your baby.  Sometimes these children 
> > matrix despite everything what can be made for them, and we do not know 
> why.  > > the cause of the syndrome of prune belly is currently not very 
> clear.  The majority of word of doctors > it are not genetic.  We however 
> know the families which had more one > child of prune belly.  However the 
> severity of the disease considerably also changes;  > thus a second force 
> of child of prune belly spout out completely.  There are others familes > 
> which thus have only one child with the prune belly it can be another 
> factor.  > > I myself AM not a medical professional;  I am a person of 
> sequence which had a friend > with this disease.  I ccing a couple of the 
> professionals who can be able in measurement > amplify on my answers.  I 
> would strongly suggest looking at all on > the Web site of 
> www.prunebelly.org, including the articles of newspaper, approximately > 
> us page and the forum of support, with which is very actively read by 
> patients
>> prune belly and parents of the children with the prune belly which made
> and not > to survive.  I believe that it is the best collection of 
> information on the belly > the prune syndrome outside there.  > > your 
> English seems very good but if the language is an exit I will test > 
> lucky find a Spanish speaker to help you.  We want to translate the 
> website > into other languages, but we are all mostly the volunteers as 
> this proceeds rather > slowly.  > > to answer your questions specifically 
> -- I do not think that there are genetics > or any other test which can 
> be carried out before you became pregnant.  The belly > the syndrome of 
> prune can be diagnosed in the uterus -- and treated --. the treatment not 
> > success of guarantee but a diagnosis of syndrome of prune belly is not 
> a death > a sentence.  Look at www.prunebelly.org/AboutUs.html.  To put 
> abruptly, if > you have another child with the syndrome of prune belly it 
> can only have very soft > symptoms or he can also die, and we do not know 
> up to now what causes it or > why some kids are so much sicker than 
> others.  If the lives of child it is > probably to need surgery, probably 
> several consulting-rooms, but if it saw to be > approximately two it will 
> probably have a happy and reasonably healthy life.  It > seems extremely 
> not very probable that something which this baby with > matrix caused 
> you.  > > hope of I which I answered your questions.  Smell you please 
> free to write behind > so more occur with you.
>
> The original text:
>
> First of all, I am very sorry about your baby. Sometimes these children 
> do
>> die in spite of all that can be done for them, and we do not know why.
>> �
>> The cause of prune belly syndrome is unclear at this time. Most doctors
> say
>> it is not genetic. We do however know families who have had more than 
>> one
>> prune belly child. However the severity of the illness varies widely 
>> also;
>> so a second prune belly child might do quite well. There are other 
>> familes
>> who have only one child with prune belly so it may be some other factor.
>> �
>> I myself am not a medical professional; I am a web person who had a 
>> friend
>> with this illness. I am ccing a couple of professionals who may be able 
>> to
>> amplify on my answers. I would strongly suggest looking at everything on
>> the www.prunebelly.org web site, including the journal articles, the 
>> About
>> Us page and the support forum, which is very actively read by patients
> with
>> prune belly and parents of children with prune belly who did and did not
>> survive. I believe it is the best collection of information on prune 
>> belly
>> syndrome out there.
>> �
>> Your English seems very good but if language is an issue I will attempt 
>> to
>> find a Spanish speaker to help you. We do want to translate the website
>> into other languages, but we are mostly all volunteers so this proceeds 
>> rather
>> slowly.
>> �
>> To answer your questions specifically -- I do not think there is a 
>> genetic
>> or other test that can be done before you become pregnant. Prune belly
>> syndrome can be diagnosed -- and treated -- in utero. Treatment does not
>> guarantee success but a diagnosis of prune belly syndrome is not a death
>> sentence. Look at www.prunebelly.org/AboutUs.html. To put it bluntly, if
>> you have another child with prune belly syndrome it may have only very
> mild
>> symptoms or it may also die, and we do not as yet know what causes it or
>> why some kids are so much sicker than others. If the child lives it is
>> likely to need surgery, possibly several surgeries, but if it lives to 
>> be
>> about two it will probably have a happy and reasonably healthy life. It
>> does seem extremely unlikely that something you did caused this baby to
>> die.
>> �
>> I hope that I have answered your questions. Please feel free to write 
>> back
>> if more occur to you.
>
>
> 
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