Systran is what Alta Vista uses to do their translations at the babelfish site.
FWIW: you might want to just go ahead and use the babelfish or google sites if these translations are not going to be posted to a site as web pages and whatnot. The company I work for is French owned and I have a lot of collegues that will discuss a problem to death in French and then send me a request to change something in one line of english. most of the time the discussions are included in the e-mail but as I don't speak French (yet -- I'm starting to pick it up, though, mwahahahahahahaaaa) I have to translate them to get the gist (jist?) The babelfish site seems to do okay with French to English I have other stories about translation (web site content,etc) regarding a specific vendor if you're interest in who *not* to go with... will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: Re: automated translation, argh.... > just to beat this dead horse a little further -- I just did a search in the > HoF archives for any discussions on this before I joined these lists, and > the one additional mention, http://www.systranbox.com/systran/box, produces > the same result. (Maybe this is where Google gets its technology?) Anyway, > "to die" is still translated as "matrix" for some bizarre reason, and "say" > as "word" -- Grumble. I may have to start a fund raising drive just for > this. I am pretty sure the email I was answering was English out of one of > these services... meaning my answer probably looks a lot like that to her. > Unless the translation to Spanish is a lot better than the translation to > French. > > Dana > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003 20:16:12 -0600, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I believe this has come up several times on cf-talk, and the consensus is > > always a that a human translator is best. While I do agree with this I do > > not have a budget for translation at the moment, nor do I have any truly > > bilingual volunteers. Given enough time I can probably handle French > > myself but most of our email seems to come from Latin America. The > > current plan is to set up a link to Google's language tools, but I am > > really not happy with it. AltaVista's tools seem no better. Does anyone > > on this list know of a better tool out there? > > > > Dana > > > > PS - to demonstrate the scope of the problem, I am pasting below the text > > of an actual email, translated on Google. > > > > First of all, I am very sorry about your baby. Sometimes these children > > > matrix despite everything what can be made for them, and we do not know > > why. > > the cause of the syndrome of prune belly is currently not very > > clear. The majority of word of doctors > it are not genetic. We however > > know the families which had more one > child of prune belly. However the > > severity of the disease considerably also changes; > thus a second force > > of child of prune belly spout out completely. There are others familes > > > which thus have only one child with the prune belly it can be another > > factor. > > I myself AM not a medical professional; I am a person of > > sequence which had a friend > with this disease. I ccing a couple of the > > professionals who can be able in measurement > amplify on my answers. I > > would strongly suggest looking at all on > the Web site of > > www.prunebelly.org, including the articles of newspaper, approximately > > > us page and the forum of support, with which is very actively read by > > patients > >> prune belly and parents of the children with the prune belly which made > > and not > to survive. I believe that it is the best collection of > > information on the belly > the prune syndrome outside there. > > your > > English seems very good but if the language is an exit I will test > > > lucky find a Spanish speaker to help you. We want to translate the > > website > into other languages, but we are all mostly the volunteers as > > this proceeds rather > slowly. > > to answer your questions specifically > > -- I do not think that there are genetics > or any other test which can > > be carried out before you became pregnant. The belly > the syndrome of > > prune can be diagnosed in the uterus -- and treated --. the treatment not > > > success of guarantee but a diagnosis of syndrome of prune belly is not > > a death > a sentence. Look at www.prunebelly.org/AboutUs.html. To put > > abruptly, if > you have another child with the syndrome of prune belly it > > can only have very soft > symptoms or he can also die, and we do not know > > up to now what causes it or > why some kids are so much sicker than > > others. If the lives of child it is > probably to need surgery, probably > > several consulting-rooms, but if it saw to be > approximately two it will > > probably have a happy and reasonably healthy life. It > seems extremely > > not very probable that something which this baby with > matrix caused > > you. > > hope of I which I answered your questions. Smell you please > > free to write behind > so more occur with you. > > > > The original text: > > > > First of all, I am very sorry about your baby. Sometimes these children > > do > >> die in spite of all that can be done for them, and we do not know why. > >> > >> The cause of prune belly syndrome is unclear at this time. Most doctors > > say > >> it is not genetic. We do however know families who have had more than > >> one > >> prune belly child. However the severity of the illness varies widely > >> also; > >> so a second prune belly child might do quite well. There are other > >> familes > >> who have only one child with prune belly so it may be some other factor. > >> > >> I myself am not a medical professional; I am a web person who had a > >> friend > >> with this illness. I am ccing a couple of professionals who may be able > >> to > >> amplify on my answers. I would strongly suggest looking at everything on > >> the www.prunebelly.org web site, including the journal articles, the > >> About > >> Us page and the support forum, which is very actively read by patients > > with > >> prune belly and parents of children with prune belly who did and did not > >> survive. I believe it is the best collection of information on prune > >> belly > >> syndrome out there. > >> > >> Your English seems very good but if language is an issue I will attempt > >> to > >> find a Spanish speaker to help you. We do want to translate the website > >> into other languages, but we are mostly all volunteers so this proceeds > >> rather > >> slowly. > >> > >> To answer your questions specifically -- I do not think there is a > >> genetic > >> or other test that can be done before you become pregnant. Prune belly > >> syndrome can be diagnosed -- and treated -- in utero. Treatment does not > >> guarantee success but a diagnosis of prune belly syndrome is not a death > >> sentence. Look at www.prunebelly.org/AboutUs.html. To put it bluntly, if > >> you have another child with prune belly syndrome it may have only very > > mild > >> symptoms or it may also die, and we do not as yet know what causes it or > >> why some kids are so much sicker than others. If the child lives it is > >> likely to need surgery, possibly several surgeries, but if it lives to > >> be > >> about two it will probably have a happy and reasonably healthy life. It > >> does seem extremely unlikely that something you did caused this baby to > >> die. > >> > >> I hope that I have answered your questions. Please feel free to write > >> back > >> if more occur to you. > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
