The max Social security payout monthly is around $1150.00 for those who maxed payin over their working careers.
====================================== Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For CF hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 ====================================== If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: Re: What the Bush tax cut could have paid for | You start paying Social Security at about $100 of income. I havene't looked | it up but I know it's under $1000. EIC is a federal income tax credit and a | different matter. I'd say it reaches somewhat above the truly needy level | though -- and it fact up to a point it increases with income. And it's | based on taxable income, not actual income. | | Dana | | > How do you figure? The truly needed don't pay taxes, in fact they get the | > EIC. | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:15 PM | > Subject: Re: What the Bush tax cut could have paid for | > | > | > > but we already reditribute, only from the needy to the affluent. | > > | > > Kevin Schmidt writes: | > > | > > > How do you determine that it matters or not? Maybe you don't think it | > > > matters to someone with money in the bank, but they might. Trying to | > > > determine what someone needs rather than making it equal across the | > board it | > > > starting down the path of redistribution of wealth, which is a bad road | > to | > > > travel down. | > > > | > > > Kevin | > > > | > > > >From sunny Las Vegas!!!!!!! | > > > | > > > ----- Original Message ----- | > > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:28 PM | > > > Subject: Re: What the Bush tax cut could have paid for | > > > | > > > | > > > > I'd agree with you if I thought everyone would get their 8k. Maybe. | > But | > > > > since we all know it isn't going to work out that way, why should poor | > > > > people subsidize the affluent white elderly? The current system is | > just | > > > > grotesque. If you are going to cut, cut where it wont hurt, geez. As | > for | > > > > need, that is to be determined. I proposed a cutoff of 100,000 but it | > > > could | > > > > be anywhere; that is just my perception of where 8k doesnt matter too | > much | > > > > any more. The point is there should be SOME point where it cuts off. | > > > > | > > > > Nick McClure writes: | > > > > | > > > > > So you determine if a person needs the money before you send it back | > to | > > > > > them? What gives the government the right to decide that this person | > > > needs | > > > > > the money or not? | > > > > > | > > > > > If the person gets the 8K check, then goes and spends it buying | > stuff, | > > > then | > > > > > hasn't that done more for the economy than the government keeping | > the | > > > money? | > > > > > | > > > > > The sense is, that the 8k is that person's money, not matter how | > much | > > > money | > > > > > they have, it is still there money. We must tax people equally, I | > almost | > > > > > have a problem having a staggered tax bracket. | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > > -----Original Message----- | > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:07 PM | > > > > > > To: CF-Community | > > > > > > Subject: Re: What the Bush tax cut could have paid for | > > > > > > | > > > > > > my point is I fail to see the sense in sending checks for what, 8k | > a | > > > year, | > > > > > > to multi-millionaires. Sure a means test would be bureaucracy, but | > if | > > > it | > > > > > > saves money would't it be a necessary evil? | > > > > > > | > > > > > > Dana | > > > > > > | > > > > > > Heald, Tim writes: | > > > > > > | > > > > > > > I advocate not giving out any money. No problems with a budget | > when | > > > the | > > > > > > > budget is $0. | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > Tim | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- | > > > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:51 PM | > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community | > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: What the Bush tax cut could have paid for | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > what, you advocate indiscrimiately handing out money? That | > helps | > > > > > > balance | > > > > > > > > the budget, fer sure.... | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > Dana | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003 07:21:50 -0400, Heald, Tim | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > > > > > wrote: | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > A means test? From a small government advocate? | > > > > > > > > > Sometimes................ | > > > > > > > > > Nevermind. | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > Tim | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- | > > > > > > > > >> From: Dana Tierney [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > > > > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:34 PM | > > > > > > > > >> To: CF-Community | > > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: What the Bush tax cut could have paid for | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> yep. I can I can. It's not that I begrudge people their | > > > pensions, | > > > > > > its | > > > > > > > > >> just | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> that hey I was paying this when I was driving a cab gettign | > > > robbed | > > > > > > for | > > > > > > > > a | > > > > > > > > >> living in DC to feed my kids and people with many times my | > > > income | > > > > > > where | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > >> saying hey we paid in so we are entitled. I paid in too and | > I | > > > doubt | > > > > > > I | > > > > > > > > >> will | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> ever see mine. Personally I think social security pensions | > > > should | > > > > > > have | > > > > > > > > a | > > > > > > > > >> means test. Maybe $100 000 a year and below. | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> Dana | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 29 May 2003 14:52:14 -0500, Doug White | > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > > > > > > > > >> wrote: | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> > | | > > > > > > > > >> > | Also, we could make Social Security a progessive not a | > > > > > > regressive | > > > > > > > > >> tax. | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > >> > But | > > > > > > > > >> > | that would end the subsidy of the affluent elderly and | > > > > > > politically | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > >> would | > > > > > > > > >> > | never happen as those people vote. | > > > > > > > > >> > | | > > > > > > > > >> > | Dana | > > > > > > > > >> > | | > > > > > > > > >> > | > > > > > > > > >> > I paid in to SS (and with employer match) from the | > beginning, | > > > and | > > > > > > > > just | > > > > > > > > >> > now am | > > > > > > > > >> > reaping the so-called benefits. Thankfully, there are a | > > > couple | > > > > > > of | > > > > > > > > >> other | > > > > > > > > >> > retirement pensions, and investments to help out, plus I | > am | > > > still | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > >> working, in a | > > > > > > > > >> > way, that is. | > > > > > > > > >> > | > > > > > > > > >> > You Betcha we do <grin> and likewise support a very | > active | > > > and | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > >> effective | > > > > > > > > >> > lobby, as well. Can you spell AARP? | > > > > > > > > >> > | > > > > > > > > >> > | > > > > > > > > >> | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > | > > > | > > | > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. 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