you sure about that mike?

John Stanley writes:

> lol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> 
> 
> I think my choice has a slightly better chance of coming true. :)
> 
> 
> > If i had my choice, I'd have a hive mentality, where there were no
> > countries, and everyone worked together to get things done.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:03 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> >
> >
> > Yes. There will always be more of the same. I'd just like a government
> that
> > was
> > focused on the people and the state of the country than on it's own power
> > and
> > outside interests.
> >
> >
> > > <cf_insert_2_cents>
> > > Do you agree that no matter who gets elected, there will be more of
> > > the same "something". By that I mean, more of the same selling out to
> > > whatever special interests they hold dear. How can anyone rise to the
> > power
> > > of the presidency without selling their soul on innumerable occasions?
> > > </cf_insert_2_cents>
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:56 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS"
> > >
> > >
> > > If n fact he is just another mouth piece, no. Last thing we need is more
> > of
> > > the same.
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > > Michael Dinowitz writes:
> > >
> > > > His backstory once made him very attractive to me as a candidate.
> > Problem
> > > is,
> > > > he's become just another mouthpiece for the powers that be and is just
> > not
> > > > someone I'd vote for anymore.
> > > > Just as an aside, let me throw this into the mix.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/iraq/powelldoctrine_s
> > > hort
> > > > .html
> > > > His military doctrine about when and how to use force. Seems he feel
> it
> > > only
> > > > applies to himself, not to others....
> > > >
> > > > > I dunno... I could conceive of voting for him and I am sure as hell
> > not
> > > a
> > > > > Republican. This may change if he appears to have been dishonest. I
> > also
> > > > > wondered if he wasn't the source for that story.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dana
> > > > >
> > > > > jon hall writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps it may appear so on the surface, but I really can't agree.
> > The
> > > > > > administration want's Powell to be a "yes man", but obviously he
> > > > > > doesn't like it. Cheney is the one who originally wrote the BS in
> > the
> > > > > > first place.
> > > > > > Much has been made about Powell disagreeing with the
> administration
> > on
> > > > > > a lot of issues. The problem is that he is outnumbered in the
> White
> > > > > > House with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice usually lining up against
> him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My take is the almost extreme opposite of this somehow being a
> sign
> > of
> > > > > > weakness on Powell's part. I see it as a sign of strength that he
> > > > > > disagree's so much with the party line, but refuses to try and
> make
> > it
> > > > > > an issue of right and wrong in the public eye. Especially since
> the
> > > > > > American voter only really cares about the truth when their party
> > > > > > doesn't have the White House. I doubt Powell would have gained
> more
> > > > > > Democratic supporters than Republican supporters he would have
> lost
> > if
> > > > > > he refused to go along with the White House.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When it comes down to it, the first black man to have a chance of
> > > > > > becoming President has more important things to worry about than
> > > > > > whether or not one reason to go to war with Iraq is better than
> > > > > > another.
> > > > > > He has a strong support base on the right currently and can't
> > > > > > let the media screw up his image by painting him as a maverick,
> and
> > I
> > > > > > can't help but draw a parallel between David Palmer in the show
> 24,
> > > > > > and Powell. Playing ball now will go a long way in the future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  jon
> > > > > >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Monday, June 2, 2003, 10:24:00 PM, you wrote:
> > > > > > MD> Powell, who I once thought I respected, is nothing more than a
> > > "yes man"
> > > > for
> > > > > > MD> Bush and the forces in the state department. He is definitely
> > not
> > > in
> > > > charge of
> > > > > > MD> anything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On the evening of February 1, two dozen American officials
> > gathered
> > > in a
> > > > > > MD> spacious conference room at the Central Intelligence Agency in
> > > Langley,
> > > > Va. The
> > > > > > MD> time had come to make the public case for war against Iraq.
> For
> > > six
> > > > hours that
> > > > > > MD> Saturday, the men and women of the Bush administration argued
> > > about what
> > > > > > MD> Secretary of State Colin Powell should--and should not--say at
> > the
> > > > United
> > > > > > MD> Nations Security Council four days later. Not all the secret
> > > > intelligence about
> > > > > > MD> Saddam Hussein's misdeeds, they found, stood up to close
> > scrutiny.
> > > At
> > > > one point
> > > > > > MD> during the rehearsal, Powell tossed several pages in the air.
> > "I'm
> > > not
> > > > reading
> > > > > > MD> this," he declared. "This is bulls- - -."
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030609/usnews/9intell.htm
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
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