Hello,

We did not declare war on Iraq it was a 'police action', lacking even the 
cover of a UN mandate.

Many believe the real issue at hand is the long term threat of China 
capturing those oil wells, if they would have it could of lead to total 
world domination by China.  There is/was a huge power vacuum created when 
Russia fell apart and China had been filling that vacuum.  China is the 
true long term threat of the United States and ultimately the free 
world.  I don't believe in Bush's NWO, but then I don't speak Chinese 
either so I guess I'm screwed either way.
Bush congressional ally says China run by 'decrepit tyrants'  (lump's them 
in with the axis of evil)

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/030603/1/3bhzt.html

Remember our bombing of the embassy when they were trying to figure out how 
to track our stealth planes and the latest incident the spy plane being 
rammed by the nimble fighter.    Also North Korea is nothing but the lips 
and teeth of China and look at their tone towards the US...it's really 
China's tone.  When China has something inflammatory to say...North Korea 
says it instead.

Either way the war WAS unconstitutional... The end justifies the means?

Best,
Mike Randolph


>Actually, we as a country and world had several months of active debate.  It
>was no accident, but a carefully planned (and perhaps orchestrated) event.
>The major question is were we intentionally misinformed by Bush in order to
>get public approval for the invasion.  And at this point, in the absence of
>facts, it is in fact a question, not the fait accompli that many on this
>list appear to be making it.
>
>Also, the WMD discussion in the UN was not about IF he had them, only about
>the right way to stop him from having them.  One of the reasons all of us
>knew he had them was that US, France and Russia all had receipts from the
>sale.  So we had a reason for the "liberation".
>
>Question: Did we ever declared war on Iraq?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:04 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Clinton wants to change the 22nd amendment.
>
>
>what, you mean like, if he had accidentally declared war on a country for
>not reason? hmmm... I dunno
>
>Andy Ousterhout writes:
>
> > Flaws in character are one of the things that prevents someone from doing
>a
> > good job.  And the fundamental issue isn't If someone screws up, because
>we
> > all do, it is how he/she reacts to their mistake.  That is were I find
> > Clinton revolting.  He showed us that he would rather continue the lie
>then
> > admit to what most/many people just wouldn't care about.  Including me.
> > Just imagine if he had really screwed up on something that we needed to
>know
> > about.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:02 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Clinton wants to change the 22nd amendment.
> >
> >
> > The worst part is that people cannot get over these flaws of character!
> >
> > Look, either man can do a good job for the country regardless of past
> > mistakes. To judge them on parts of their past which, while dispicable,
>are
> > not grounds for barring them from office is to deny the country the
>benefit
> > of their talents and experience.
> >
> > The way to judge a president is by what he can do for the U.S., and that's
> > that.
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:57 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Clinton wants to change the 22nd amendment.
> >
> >
> > Or been a cocaine user?? Or a warmonger. Lol humans are flawed its all
>good
> > in the hood just don't make 2 different set of rules for people who do the
> > same things.
> >
> > Clinton got a blowjob on the job
> > Bush is going to try to make another war to win an election.
> >
> > Which is worse?? Guess we'll find out next year
> >
> >
> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good
> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!"
> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
> >
> >
>
>
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